I'm genuinely surprised that someone would make a YouTube video about this man. His organization is said to be next level. There's plenty of those names around living in pockets of London, Essex and Kent at the moment. None of their criminal dealings can be proven.
True TKJ, Scotland Yard had been infiltrated by criminal groups, most notably the infamous Adams Familiy in England and a gang led by the mobster David Hunt.
The covert investigation of Operation Tiberius found that many detectives had been 'bribed' and provided access to police databases and even states that criminals were watching 'live' with ongoing investigations.
When it comes to the UK, many always talk about the immigrant ethnic groups.
But there still many British organised crime gangs that have been active for many years.
The British press are always going to play up the "foreign crime threat" hysteria. The vast majority of organized crime in the UK still concerns homegrown British criminal networks of English/Scottish/Irish background. Organized crime in Liverpool, Glasgow, Nottingham, Manchester and Newcastle consists of 95% homegrown groups. And there are still a lot of homegrown groups active in Essex and Kent (whose operations extend into North, East and South London) as well as the Solihull/Birmingham area. All of these have international operations.
Regarding "foreign" organized crime in the UK the noteworthy ones at the moment are Albanian cocaine and hashish trafficking groups that are mostly active in the London and Birmingham area, the Turkish/Kurdish heroin trafficking groups in North London, Pakistani (mostly several Mirpuri and Pashtun families) heroin trafficking groups in Bradford, Birmingham, Oldham, Middlesbrough and Luton, Vietnamese marihuana trafficking groups in London, Lithuanian arms and contraband tobacco smuggling groups in London, Somali drug gangs in South London, Jamaican gang activity in London, Birmingham, Bristol and Manchester (though Jamaican gang activity isn't as endemic as it once has been), Tamil gangs in West London (also not as endemic as it once has been), Traveller families mostly in the Manchester area and some Maltese involvement in underground pornography and prostitution in London (though most London Maltese are nowadays regarded as British).
Two weeks on from the murder of Olivia Pratt-Korbel, Merseyside Police say they are taking a relentless approach to their crackdown on serious organised crime in the region.
Their operation, codenamed Operation Miller, has seen hundreds of arrests as well as the execution of warrants, seizure of vehicles and stop searches.
The move comes following a series of murders in the region, including the death of nine-year-old Olivia Pratt-Korbel, who was gunned down in her Dovecot home.
Are there 2 families in Edinburgh? I've wondered where did the Thompson family later commit to, the Daniels or Lyons? Only 2 family's in Glasgow am I right?
Are there 2 families in Edinburgh? I've wondered where did the Thompson family later commit to, the Daniels or Lyons? Only 2 family's in Glasgow am I right?
As far as I know there are at least 5 well organised OC gangs operating in Glasgow
Funny how throughout the years the Maltese had a more noteworthy presence in the London underworld than Italians. The Sabini mob was done by the early 40's. Maltese gangsters were noticeably operating in London from the 1940's well into the early 2000's. Soho has been thoroughly cleaned up, but traces of Maltese activity still exist under the radar. Not as huge as it once was, but it's still there...or so I've been told.
Are there 2 families in Edinburgh? I've wondered where did the Thompson family later commit to, the Daniels or Lyons? Only 2 family's in Glasgow am I right?
There's drug trafficking in Edinburgh as there's in any major city, but it isn't really a hotspot for organized crime. Daniel and Lyons families are highly publicized because of their long running feud, but there's way way more mobs operating from Glasgow that are internationally active. Daniel and Lyons are both from North Glasgow and they're no doubt feared and have pull over there, but there's a few mobs from for instance South Glasgow that arguably have even more resources and can be regarded as big time players in the European underworld. There's also mobs operating from West and East Glasgow. We don't know the true extent of their power, but I'd wager that there's even quite a bit more than five organized crime outfits operating from Glasgow.
Funny how throughout the years the Maltese had a more noteworthy presence in the London underworld than Italians. The Sabini mob was done by the early 40's. Maltese gangsters were noticeably operating in London from the 1940's well into the early 2000's. Soho has been thoroughly cleaned up, but traces of Maltese activity still exist under the radar. Not as huge as it once was, but it's still there...or so I've been told.
Theres a huge Italian community in the UK, but there has never been a mafia presence
There's drug trafficking in Edinburgh as there's in any major city, but it isn't really a hotspot for organized crime. Daniel and Lyons families are highly publicized because of their long running feud, but there's way way more mobs operating from Glasgow that are internationally active. Daniel and Lyons are both from North Glasgow and they're no doubt feared and have pull over there, but there's a few mobs from for instance South Glasgow that arguably have even more resources and can be regarded as big time players in the European underworld. There's also mobs operating from West and East Glasgow. We don't know the true extent of their power, but I'd wager that there's even quite a bit more than five organized crime outfits operating from Glasgow.
Curiosity: are the Gillespie brothers from Glasgow? There have been quite a lot of articles about them online, they were supposedly killed in Brazil or still on the run there; they are described as being quite powerful gangsters operating on international level.
Is there any good book about those other gangs in Scotland? As you said, Daniel and Lyons are the most publicized ones, so it would be interesting to learn about the others, if there is any information available to the public.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
There's drug trafficking in Edinburgh as there's in any major city, but it isn't really a hotspot for organized crime. Daniel and Lyons families are highly publicized because of their long running feud, but there's way way more mobs operating from Glasgow that are internationally active. Daniel and Lyons are both from North Glasgow and they're no doubt feared and have pull over there, but there's a few mobs from for instance South Glasgow that arguably have even more resources and can be regarded as big time players in the European underworld. There's also mobs operating from West and East Glasgow. We don't know the true extent of their power, but I'd wager that there's even quite a bit more than five organized crime outfits operating from Glasgow.
Curiosity: are the Gillespie brothers from Glasgow? There have been quite a lot of articles about them online, they were supposedly killed in Brazil or still on the run there; they are described as being quite powerful gangsters operating on international level.
Is there any good book about those other gangs in Scotland? As you said, Daniel and Lyons are the most publicized ones, so it would be interesting to learn about the others, if there is any information available to the public.
Yes, the Gillespies are from Rutherglen, which is in South Glasgow. As youngsters they were foot soldiers for Stephen Docherty - who at the time was the crime boss of Rutherglen and one of the biggest gangsters in all of Glasgow - and they took over the organization after his death. Extremely dangerous men. Glasgow locals can probably provide you with more intel, but lower level drug traffickers who ran afoul of their mob got punished severely...torture, dismemberments, kneecappings, sledgehammer beatings, etc... Apparently they haven't been in contact with their associates for almost a year now. They were living in a luxury loft in Fortaleza. Some say they got into conflict with members from the local PCC chapter, others say another fellow Glasgow gangster had given the order to have them killed, another one says they had a conflict with other international drug traffickers (the Ndrangheta for instance also operates from Brazil), etc...and then there are others who say they're still under the radar and on the run hiding somewhere else. All I know is that when Brazilian gangs have you killed, you usually don't just "disappear". Most times they chop you up or set you on fire...but they don't make the effort to stuff your remains in some oil barrel or something like that. You're basically always found. As for the possibility of them being on the run; it's definitely possible. These guys are multimillionaires and they do have the resources to stay under the radar. Who knows?
There are tons of books on the Glasgow gang life, but I have to say I don't know if any of them are any good...
Funny how throughout the years the Maltese had a more noteworthy presence in the London underworld than Italians. The Sabini mob was done by the early 40's. Maltese gangsters were noticeably operating in London from the 1940's well into the early 2000's. Soho has been thoroughly cleaned up, but traces of Maltese activity still exist under the radar. Not as huge as it once was, but it's still there...or so I've been told.
The internment of Italian's during the war finished them.
James and Barry Gillespie are believed to lead Scotland's biggest and richest organized gang. Many of the Brits have a base in The Netherlands for drug deals, but Amsterdam is also a hotspot for fugitive British top criminals.
James and Barry Gillespie are believed to lead Scotland's biggest and richest organized gang. Many of the Brits have a base in The Netherlands for drug deals, but Amsterdam is also a hotspot for fugitive British top criminals.
Used to be Spain.
Where are the members of the Thompson mob, did they jump ship to the 2 family's in Glasgow or simply stop/low-level?
The average citizen is much more concerned about low-tier criminals committing crimes that most effect them (petty theft, rape, carjacking, assault, b-&-e, robbery, etc) than top-tier crime brokers that aren’t directly responsible for any of that. I know it’s short sighted but that’s a pretty common and understandable sentiment.
On top of that, London is one of the most important metros in the world so its crime gets more attention than some hick town in some outer Shire. And when it comes to the crimes listed above, individuals of “foreign” descent make up a significant slice of the offender’s pie.
In analogy with the Penose in the Netherlands and the Milieu in France, organised crime in the United Kingdom has traditionally been governed by homegrown organised criminal groups involved in a multitude of illegitimate businesses. Criminal enterprises come from a variety of different ethnic backgrounds finding their origin in the UK, the most dominant of them still being the White British groups.
The whole of the UK is said to host some 7,500 different organised criminal groups that cost the country £100 million a day in crime and lost revenues.
James and Barry Gillespie are believed to lead Scotland's biggest and richest organized gang. Many of the Brits have a base in The Netherlands for drug deals, but Amsterdam is also a hotspot for fugitive British top criminals.
Used to be Spain.
Where are the members of the Thompson mob, did they jump ship to the 2 family's in Glasgow or simply stop/low-level?
Spain is still a hotspot for them, but lately also Dubai and Turkey.
The average citizen is much more concerned about low-tier criminals committing crimes that most effect them (petty theft, rape, carjacking, assault, b-&-e, robbery, etc) than top-tier crime brokers that aren’t directly responsible for any of that. I know it’s short sighted but that’s a pretty common and understandable sentiment.
On top of that, London is one of the most important metros in the world so its crime gets more attention than some hick town in some outer Shire. And when it comes to the crimes listed above, individuals of “foreign” descent make up a significant slice of the offender’s pie.
Is it "foreign" if their motherlands belonged to the British Empire?
A man wanted by the National Crime Agency for eight years has admitted to being involved in large-scale international drug trafficking. It concerns Michael Moogan (36) from Croxteth near Liverpool, who was extradited from Dubai to British police in July . Moogan narrowly escaped in 2013 during a police raid on the notorious Rotterdam café De Ketel.
That cafe was a meeting place for people involved in international drug trafficking, it was not just open to the public but only accessible to familiar faces through a security system. Moogan turned up in a Dutch National Unit investigation. He was linked with others in plans to ship hundreds of kilograms of cocaine to the UK every month from South America.
Robert Hamilton, 71, was arrested near Manchester in the 2013 raid. He was jailed for eight years in 2014 after pleading drug charges. Another co-defendant, Robert Gerard (57) of Liverpool, turned himself in to the NCA after being on the run for three years. He also made statements and was sentenced to 14 years in prison in England in 2017.
According to the NCA, Moogan deposited $500,000 per shipment to Europe with South American suppliers, making those payments through Iraqis operating out of London. The South Americans shipped cocaine to various ports in Europe, and Moogan was responsible for hauling it out of the ports and transporting it within Europe.
Maybe they have an Irish great grandparent somewhere - which British guy in any major UK city doesn't have an Irish ancestor somewhere down the line? - but I believe the Hunts are pretty much of full English descent. However their former colleague, Jimmy M., is of half Irish descent.
Adams are of full Irish descent as are the Reilly's - like most families in that part of Northeast London. The Brindle's and the Daly's in Southeast London are both of half Irish descent.
Anyway, I think any of those guys will regard themselves as Londoners first and foremost.
Maybe they have an Irish great grandparent somewhere - which British guy in any major UK city doesn't have an Irish ancestor somewhere down the line? - but I believe the Hunts are pretty much of full English descent. However their former colleague, Jimmy M., is of half Irish descent.
Adams are of full Irish descent as are the Reilly's - like most families in that part of Northeast London. The Brindle's and the Daly's in Southeast London are both of half Irish descent.
Anyway, I think any of those guys will regard themselves as Londoners first and foremost.
True where they were born and grew up is more relevant the Hunt's grew up in canning town near the port back in the days a real slum it had London’s largest black population of any area in London.
The "Operation Tiberius" report is actually pretty damn terrifying. Eight major crime firms in Northeast and East London having contacts within Scotland Yard and Freemasonry so far reaching that they basically had free rein.
The "Operation Tiberius" report is actually pretty damn terrifying. Eight major crime firms in Northeast and East London having contacts within Scotland Yard and Freemasonry so far reaching that they basically had free rein.
Already in 1994 Lord Nolan was appointed by PM John Major to chair an Inquiry into Freemasonry within the Police.
The London-based criminal organizations that rose to power in the late 80's/90's made a LOT of money. More so than any of the old time 60's/70's gangsters before them. I'd say about eight to nine criminal organizations operating in the city were definitely some of the most powerful criminal enterprises in Europe at the time. Especially thanks to their contacts within freemasonry. Many detectives looked at these big time criminal organizations with a "better the devil you know" attitude. Afterwards many of them moved out of the city and most of the ones calling the shots turned "legit".
Plenty of groups from those circles are still active. If you take a look at huge busts in the London/Essex/Kent/Hertfordshire area every few years you'll find names showing up that used to hang around those criminal organizations back in the days. It's not the same as it was back then - a ton of activity is very much under the radar - but there's still lots and lots of organized crime going on in that region that is NOT foreign in origin (no matter how much the media tries to play up that "foreign crime threat" story). They still own car dealerships, recycling companies, etc...in London.
Clacton drug lord Jonathan Parkhill is jailed for 16 years 7th April COURT CRIME CLACTON-ON-SEA
By Dami Adewale Reporter
A DRUG lord branded the “Escobar of Essex” has been jailed for 16 years after he botched a £20 million cocaine operation by sending it to the wrong country.
Jonathan Parkhill, of Clacton, mistakenly sent 30kg of cocaine to South Africa when it was supposed to land in Germany.
Crime officers caught the 55-year-old red-handed through encrypted chat EncroChat as he hastily tried to rectify his blunder, which was seized in 2020.
Parkhill was arrested in Heathrow Airport in 2021 as he arrived home from Colombia, home of infamous drug lord Pablo Escobar.
Isleworth Crown Court heard another of his criminal efforts that year saw Parkhill and his ally Kevin Hanley, 44, smuggle more than £16million's worth of cocaine, about 500kg, to Belgium.
Hanley was later arrested at his home in Uxbridge where officers found a sawn-off shotgun.
Appearing before the court, Parkhill and Hanley admitted conspiracy to import cocaine as well as admitting a “string of other offences”.
Parkhill was sentenced to 16 years in prison while Hanley was locked up for 11-and-a-half years.
Prosecutors said: “In relation to the defendants, Mr Hanley could be described as Mr Parkhill’s subordinate in the operation.
“Conversations between the men show they were both involved in the supply of class A drugs, predominantly cocaine, around the world.
“Mr Parkhill had significant connections to Colombia, evidenced by his arrest taking place after returning from South America.”
Parkhill and Hanley had also attempted to get more than 500kg of cocaine, worth in excess of £19 million, into Belgium.
The court heard the money was due to be split between Colombian dealers and Parkhill but the deal went south.
Hanley, who was described by Parkhill as his “eyes” in Antwerp and was responsible for handling the deal, was savagely beaten for bungling it.
Recorder Andrew Campbell-Tiech said: “On the point of view of the defendants, both importations failed.”
The operation which led to the pair’s capture was led by the National Crime Agency alongside overseas partners.
David Hunt and his group are supposedly quite untouchable still after all these years, even after the leaked exposé about their connections to rogue cops, elected officials and other élites.
The Long Fella has gone legit. As have most of the families named in the Operation Tiberius report - which includes a ton of names from the London professional boxing scene. However, a lot of guys that associated with these families - especially ones from the East End and Essex area - still show up in huge busts. Jonathan Parkhill is an example, but you've also had Michael Read and Mark Gooch, Greg Spiers, Richard Wakeling, Chris Michaelides, Danny Sharland, etc...showing up in the last two years. It's hard to say who's pulling the strings in the background, but you have at least a few of these busts every year so there's a ton out there we don't know about.
The thing is that UK reports on crime are and have always been incredibly sensationalist. In the 90's and the early 2000's their main focus was on the Jamaicans and the Turks/Kurds making it out like all of the crime in London was being committed by them, which was a crock of shit. The Kurds stuck to their own neighborhoods in North London and were mostly focused on heroin importation and extortion in their own community. The Yardies on the other hand ran successful drug-dealing networks, but were seldom involved in high level importation and other rackets. Nowadays the Jamaicans and the Kurds are old news and they've shifted their focus to Albanians (first and foremost), Somalis, Vietnamese and Lithuanians. Albanians for the most part run successful drug-dealing networks, grow houses as well as prostitution, Somalis also run drug-dealing networks, Vietnamese operate grow houses and Lithuanians are involved in gunrunning for the most part. Again all of them stick to their own rackets and again it's a crock they would be responsible for 99% of the crime.
A lot of the busts that show millions of pounds worth of narcotics getting smuggled through the ports involve local villains. Local struggling businessmen are not taking out loans from foreign criminals. As hard as it may seem to believe there are still lorry hijacks happening and they don't involve foreign criminals. There's even a lot of people smuggling networks that involve British and Irish gangsters.
North Kensington in London? A lot has changed: costs millions to live there. Even for an ex council flat.
Kensington in Liverpool is a very different story however haha
I agree like many parts in London big money has changed it, but while one of the most expensive properties in the UK. Kensington and Chelsea rank the 7th highest crime borough in London.
It now became known that Dutch drug lord Johnny Gerrard Kock was found dead in his cell at HMP Berwyn in Wales on August 16, 2021. The 75-year-old K., who served a quarter of a century in prison and narrowly escaped prosecution twice in the past, 'flooded' the streets of Liverpool with cocaine and was regarded as one of the UK's biggest drug traffickers ever. The Antiques dealer who imported up to £1bn of cocaine to the UK died seven years into his 25-year sentence.
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Funny they can't break in then asking him to open the door HAHA.
The English mob is a joke right now mainly because many muslim gangsters from Kosovo already arrived in their country and are causing havoc. I mean, even on the Winston Churchill monument in London, they placed an Albanian flag and named him as "Winston Cherchilli" lol lol lol like he was their guy because of the name "Albion" which is an alternative name for Great Britain lol. Those guys are obviously confused lol But what goes around, comes around since in 2000/2001 England backed those same fellas in Kosovo against the Serbs, and now the "boomerang" came back lol
He who can never endure the bad will never see the good
Funny they can't break in then asking him to open the door HAHA.
The English mob is a joke right now mainly because many muslim gangsters from Kosovo already arrived in their country and are causing havoc. I mean, even on the Winston Churchill monument in London, they placed an Albanian flag and named him as "Winston Cherchilli" lol lol lol like he was their guy because of the name "Albion" which is an alternative name for Great Britain lol. Those guys are obviously confused lol But what goes around, comes around since in 2000/2001 England backed those same fellas in Kosovo against the Serbs, and now the "boomerang" came back lol
It's because loads of Albanians have been arriving by boat pretending to be asylum seakers, most are low level drug dealers at best.
Gangland villain's life of crime from 'real life Scarface' to 'supergrass' In 1995, John Haase was secretly considered a "supergrass" by police and Customs officials
'Tony the Tiger' was a boxing star before he was gunned down by masked shooter The ECHO has revisited the case of Anthony 'Tony the Tiger' Sinnott as part of its unsolved crime series
Spanish police say they have re-arrested British criminal Brian Charrington on suspicion of running a major cocaine network. According to the police, he imported large quantities of cocaine and distributed them along the coast from Barcelona to Valencia. The Dutch police also took part in the investigation. Charrington had also been arrested and tried in 2018.
Brian Charrington from Northeast England (1956) has a criminal history of more than thirty years. He became known as “Wikipedia Narco” because he probably painstakingly corrected and updated his Wikipedia page himself.
He was once an associate of the English gangster Curtis Warren, who spent a considerable amount of time in the Netherlands in the Extra Secure Institution (EBI) in Vught. In 2018, Charrington was sentenced to 15 years in prison in Spain for cocaine trafficking.
After that verdict, he had been free for some time.
Suriname The new suspicion concerns, among other things, a shipment of 1,165 kilos of cocaine that was seized on a sailing boat that sailed from Suriname to Valencia and was intercepted near the Canary Islands. Police foiled a second attempt to ship a ton of cocaine by sailboat.
A total of 31 arrests and 23 searches were made, with assets worth ten million euros seized.
After the operational work, 1,165 kilos of cocaine were seized, hidden in the boats. During the course of the investigation, more than 300 surveillance operations were conducted and more than 100 telephone lines were intercepted.
Shotgun Upon his arrest, Charrington confronted officers with a shotgun, but ultimately surrendered without violence.
Among the assets seized in the searches are three boats worth 4,200,000 euros, 44 cars, 40 expensive watches, 60 works of art, 54 mobile phones, a virtual cryptocurrency wallet and three guns.
British do you know anything about Edinburgh OC and second question did the Thompson family jump ship to the Daniels or Lyons ... did Paul Ferris really retire?
British do you know anything about Edinburgh OC and second question did the Thompson family jump ship to the Daniels or Lyons ... did Paul Ferris really retire?
Billy, the youngest son of Arthur 'Godfather' Thompson was found dead in 2017 . Glasgow is interesting also with Celtic and Rangers, I believe the Lyons are Celtic fans.
British do you know anything about Edinburgh OC and second question did the Thompson family jump ship to the Daniels or Lyons ... did Paul Ferris really retire?
Billy, the youngest son of Arthur 'Godfather' Thompson was found dead in 2017 . Glasgow is interesting also with Celtic and Rangers, I believe the Lyons are Celtic fans.
Always been interesting that the great divide in Glasgow has never really been much of a factor when it came to OC with guys from both sides working together.
When you do some digging around on the internet you'll find some stories from people who were around when John Palmer was at the height of his power. His Tenerife exploits are legendary - I remember I read someone stating that Palmer practically owned that island back in the 90's lmao. He made way for quite a few notorious firms based in East/Southeast London, Essex and Kent to operate rackets in Tenerife. He had an issue with a certain Hezbollah-connected Lebanese clan after one of his roided up coked up henchmen blinded one of the Lebanese. The Lebanese flew in a small army of family members, but after a few fights they got chased off. Later on he allegedly fucked over a Russian gang as well who cooperated with him on one of his timeshare scams.
Between London firms, a Hezbollah-linked clan, Russian gangsters and others there must've been at least a hundred people that had good reason to take him out.