can someone from new-york explain to me in general
how this new law on gambling will work and does this open a new window for oc families-

what's that new law?

the state of newyork passed a law by a narrow margin last week to allow 5 new casinos built in
certain areas of the state,allowing video poker,
slots etc. since this is a prime source of in-come
for crime families and they control most video operations in this country can we expect some re-
surgence by oc.

I don't understand New York and its gambling laws. Is everything to do with gambling illigal? Horse racing, football games etc? And why?

horses and lottery are legal but thats it,im trying to find out what the story is on the business end of this situation,if gambling were legal in new york will cosa nostra take a hold of
some of the action.

My first impression then, would be that organised crime will be getting a kick in the teeth. If gambling becomes controlled they lose. I mean imagine if cocaine was controlled by the government. All drug dealers would be nearly out of business.

But after carefull thought our organised crime freinds would find away around it. I have no idea how though. I'm not the brains.


EDIT: By the way i know the difference between drugs and gambling but after reading my post it looks like i'm confused. I was only trying to make a comparison.

[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: Turi Giuliano ]

I would've had that first impression Turi had about a year ago. However, we have to take several factors into considerations. Firstly, are the New York Families actually still use those gambling stuff for income?? If they are, then I think that we have a situation that is very similar to one discussed (indirectly) in the novel The Last Don. If I remember correctly, The Clericuzios had great numbers of illegal gambling outlets throughout New York operating on all levels of gambling. It was claimed that if gambling was made legal, The Clericuzio would benefit immensely since it already had the system in place and operational. It already had its customers, and all what was left would be advertising themselves to let non-customers who want to gamble know of their establishments' existence.

I think if the real New York Families depended on Gambling for income had such an operation and system in place, they'd be in a better position to benefit from the legalising of such a law to a great extent. Of course, I'm not sure if the law allows Private Parties to participate in The Gambling Business...

But, this was the reasoning of a fictious novel, I think it's a reasonable analysis when I compare it to new companies attempting to penetrate a new markets and the competition they'd face from well-established and previously existing companies...

gambling is still the no.1 money source for mobsters,not because it brings in that big score
but the constant flow of money that it produces
and the small little side jobs it creates,out of this world interest rates,loansharking etc.
i also thought that they would not be happy but after thinking about it,i see huge potential in
alot more areas then just the gambling,unions,
foodservices,construction,hotels also by law(casino law)if the casino has terminated his or her credit for what ever reason you could always visit the local wise guy for a quick loan.

Say eddie, can ya lend me 5 buck$?

----------------say eddie,can ya lend me 5 bucks

I have no idea what your talkin'bout

[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: eddietheplumber ]

Aaaahh... A WISE GUY eh? But seriously though folks, I myself Don Rico gotta give propers out to eddietheplumber. Every one of his posts is chock full of the hittin' info. For that alone I must say 'grazie.' Maximum respect to eddietheplumber!

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atlantic city has never been big on gambling,this
move in new york will at least get a commision meeting out of the families on how to go about getting into this situation.IF---they all work together we could see a flash-back into the 70s.

I can't agree more.....the guy has been so impressive you'd thing he's a real-life Capo or something...If there was any quality-related rating, eddie'd get highest marks from me..

GRAZZI boys,I think this is a great site,i only started this topic to get feed back from everyone.
i myself have been kicking around the idea of doing some work on this project(casinos)and possibly getting into the vending business,i do need help from anyone in the pittsburgh area who knows about JOHN DUFFY CONLEY i know he's in jail on extorsion charges for a problem with a so.california casino,does any one know his partners name or company name-

i am notinvolved with any law enforcement agency,i do how-ever know people in my region that are made guys and connected guys and i am not ashamed to say i get alot of work through them,my mother was(passed on) and i am related to
one of the 5 families that answers to newyork via
pittsburgh.BY NO MEANS does this make me a thug or
a gangster only guilty by association,i know the
things that my family has told me,and i know what
i know by keeping my mouth shut and listening,old saying(LESS IS MORE)

[ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: eddietheplumber ]