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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: BKLYN2NASSAU]
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07/14/13 12:42 PM
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Almost done. With the new vinnny gorgeous book. It's decent so far but Destefanos writing style is getting on my nerves , reminds me of Carlos style of repeating the same thing over and over. Can't really blame massino for ratting I think he's smart enough to realize American LCN is finished and now his loyalty is to his family where it should of been all along Tell me its at least better than Mob Killer. The entire second half of the book was just a repeat of the first half, except now the stories are being told in court. Hands down one of the top 5 worst OC books I have ever read. Such a letdown. King of the Godfathers was much better though, although that book could still have been better too.
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Re: Mafia Books
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07/15/13 06:09 AM
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I live close to a barnes n noble the new scarpa book is great. I read a couple chapters and leave 30bucks is steep. bot the aurthor got vic orean's kids giving there take on every little thing scarpa did in the Colombo war. he got larry mazza this guy did his work he got a lot of goons giving there 2 cents. researched as good as rabb's 5 families. sessa was a pawn scarpa a genius. hope no one tkes the last copy out the store, he looks at the Colombo war from every angle.greg jr. the orenas,sessa,casso. caaso told oreana when he became boss scarpa's a informer the cops told him. this is a great book. The book is based on the Scarpa files. There is a dispute going on right now as we speak, between the author (Peter Lance) and Angela Clemente on who should be credited on the research for the book. Lance is claiming that he helped Clemente with optaining the files (and some other stuff), while Clemente "accuses" Lance of stealing her work. I haven´t picked up the book. Perhaps because I feel for Angela Clemente and her side of the story. If she decides to write a book on Scarpa, that´s the one I will be picking up.
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Re: Mafia Books
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07/16/13 06:20 PM
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I tried to search for a post on this one, but I just picked up Mafia Dynasty by John H. Davis (author of Mafia Kingfish-about Marcello, this one is a general history of the Gambinos). Has anyone read it? What do you think?
Just a chapter in and I'm thinking where he got all of this background info on Don Carlo? Probably relatives.
Last edited by Tony_Pro; 07/16/13 06:22 PM.
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Re: Mafia Books
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I tried to search for a post on this one, but I just picked up Mafia Dynasty by John H. Davis (author of Mafia Kingfish-about Marcello, this one is a general history of the Gambinos). Has anyone read it? What do you think?
Just a chapter in and I'm thinking where he got all of this background info on Don Carlo? Probably relatives. Barely a hundred pages in and this book is already turning south. According to Davis, Carmine Galante, "boss of the Bannano family", was at Apalachin. He further speculates wildly about Apalachin, writing that the state police may have been tipped-off by Frank Costello, a double-crossing Carlo Gambio and Meyer Lansky (and Marcello to boot) to embarrass and cause trouble for Genovese. Why they would jeoprodize every other boss in the country to just get back at Genovese the author doesn't address. He just tells us that it may have been a set-up because a bunch of Cosa Nostra bosses weren't there; which is a pretty huge leap since not all "commission" meetings were attended or rep'd by all bosses and Genovese's rivals would have been keen to find a handy excuse not to attend an impromptu meeting called by Genovese in the first place. Even for a 20-year-old book this is not good.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)
"I'm not talking about Italians, I'm talking about criminals."-Joe Valachi
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Re: Mafia Books
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07/18/13 05:15 PM
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I tried to search for a post on this one, but I just picked up Mafia Dynasty by John H. Davis (author of Mafia Kingfish-about Marcello, this one is a general history of the Gambinos). Has anyone read it? What do you think?
Just a chapter in and I'm thinking where he got all of this background info on Don Carlo? Probably relatives. Barely a hundred pages in and this book is already turning south. According to Davis, Carmine Galante, "boss of the Bannano family", was at Apalachin. He further speculates wildly about Apalachin, writing that the state police may have been tipped-off by Frank Costello, a double-crossing Carlo Gambio and Meyer Lansky (and Marcello to boot) to embarrass and cause trouble for Genovese. Why they would jeoprodize every other boss in the country to just get back at Genovese the author doesn't address. He just tells us that it may have been a set-up because a bunch of Cosa Nostra bosses weren't there; which is a pretty huge leap since not all "commission" meetings were attended or rep'd by all bosses and Genovese's rivals would have been keen to find a handy excuse not to attend an impromptu meeting called by Genovese in the first place. Even for a 20-year-old book this is not good. Davis have a knack of exaggerating. I guess most mob writers do. But the most annoying writer and so called "mob expert", is without a doubt Ernest Volkman, in my opinion. He takes the exaggeration to the highest level, makes one want to puke. Can´t stand him!
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Re: Mafia Books
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07/22/13 02:40 PM
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I live close to a barnes n noble the new scarpa book is great. I read a couple chapters and leave 30bucks is steep. bot the aurthor got vic orean's kids giving there take on every little thing scarpa did in the Colombo war. he got larry mazza this guy did his work he got a lot of goons giving there 2 cents. researched as good as rabb's 5 families. sessa was a pawn scarpa a genius. hope no one tkes the last copy out the store, he looks at the Colombo war from every angle.greg jr. the orenas,sessa,casso. caaso told oreana when he became boss scarpa's a informer the cops told him. this is a great book. If you mean the Peter Lance book, I saw it in Barnes and Nobles, read some, it was boring. I guess we have different tastes if you find it great, but I just put it back on shelf after reading a few chapters. He just takes a lot of work done by other people, primarily the Angela Clemente mentioned by Hairy Knuckles, and adds some of his own thoughts and comment to them. Sandra Harmon's book on Scarpa Jr. called Mafia Son was way better.
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Re: Mafia Books
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07/23/13 05:48 PM
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The Godfather by Mario Puzo Gangster by Lorenzo Carcaterra The Sicilian by Mario Puzo The Last Don by Mario Puzo Billy Bathgate by E.L. Doctorow Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi Donnie Brasco by Joseph D. Pistone
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