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Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22430
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I think I should open this thread alongside the wisest decision thread...for parallel's sake wink

What do you think was Michael's Worst decision?

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22431
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Marrying Kay


His father was always about "Blood Family" and Kay took that away from him and tore his family apart. Whether he was pissed off at Kay or not it still had an effect on him since he was "out of his element" without all of his family around.


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22432
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His biggest mistake was his carrying on in Frank Pentangeli's living room about the abortive hit. It was pure theatrics to fool whomever might be listening, and perhaps to make Pentangeli nervous as well. Of course thereafter Mike confides in Pentangeli that he knows it is Roth who is out to get him. It is also in this scene where Mike tells Pentangeli to keep his friends close and his enemies closer. I think this left a doubt in Pentangeli's mind about where Michael was coming from and it led to the whole COngressional investigation.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22433
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DonMichael, I have to disagree with you a little on this one because the Don sometimes saw value in trusting people who were not blood. The best example was Tom Hagen, who he trusted more than his own son. After Sonny dies, the Don even said to Tom "I never thought you were a bad Consiglieri, I though Santino, rest in peace, was a bad Don."


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22434
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To teach Apollonia drive! grin


keep your mouth shut, and your eyes open.
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22435
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Originally posted by dontomasso:
DonMichael, I have to disagree with you a little on this one because the Don sometimes saw value in trusting people who were not blood. The best example was Tom Hagen, who he trusted more than his own son. After Sonny dies, the Don even said to Tom "I never thought you were a bad Consiglieri, I though Santino, rest in peace, was a bad Don."
I didn't mean trusting people who were not blood I meant a "close family" I said blood to distinguish the Corleone Family from the Corleone Crime Family


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22436
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His biggest mistake was volunteering to kill Sollozzo and McCluskey, which set him on the wrong path for life. As I posted previously: the very same suggestion he made for dealing with the aftermath of McCluskey's killing--feeding newspaper people on the family payroll stories about McCluskey's corruption--could have been used before the shooting, and would have thwarted McCluskey and Sollozzo without the need for bloodshed. (But then we wouldn't have had a GF Trilogy.)


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22437
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While I would agree with Turnbull that the decision to kill Sollozzo & McCluskey starting everything else in motion, I would add that killing Fredo was Michael's biggest mistake.

It's a fine line because Fredo betrayed Michael and almost got Michael killed. From a business standpoint, Fredo had to go - no question. But when it's your own brother, sometimes you have to look the other way. I think killing Fredo sucked all the humanity out of Michael and he never fully recovered from it. As he asked Don Tommasino's corpse,
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"Why was I so feared, and you so loved? What was it? I was no less honorable. I wanted to do good. What betrayed me? My mind? My heart?"
If it wasn't Michael's biggest mistake, I would certainly think it was the action Michael regretted the most.

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22438
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I go with DMC here - KAY was the worst decision of Michael.

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22439
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Originally posted by JustMe:
To teach Apollonia drive! grin
I think that one as well. lol


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22440
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I think Michael's worst decision was to get involved with Cuba and Hyman Roth. I still don't understand why he decided to do this.

~~ Lollie


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22441
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Killing Fredo for sure. Nothing he ever did topped how awful that was.


~*~*~*~Lauren~*~*~*~
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22442
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Killing Fredo. It was what seemed to haunt Michael the most in his later years...therefore it was his worst decision. Michael may have been a business man, but his heart had always been set on putting his family first. That was the Corleone way. He made a lot of other business-related mistakes too, I admit, but family was most important to him. It was what he lived for. For the entire trilogy, he is trying to balance what he had to do (take over as Don) and what he had to protect and keep (his family). Killing his own blood was one of the ways he failed in doing the latter, IMO.


"I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart."
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22443
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Attending his son's opera debut
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Eating oranges


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22444
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Originally posted by JustMe:
To teach Apollonia drive! grin
LOL. wink

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22445
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To kill Fredo. orange He is so haunted by it that when he is having that seizure he is screaming "Fredo, Fredo!"


Hey, how's it going?
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22446
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Indeed, killing Fredo. everytime i see the movie i think "For gods sake Mike! He's your BROTHER!"

ohwell

Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22447
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Originally posted by DutchGodfather:
...everytime i see the movie i think "For gods sake Mike! He's your BROTHER!"...
Yeah...and that's what I think toward Fredo when it's clear he betrayed Mike & the Family.

Mike's worst decision: Going into business with Hyman Roth. He should've listened to Frankie.

Apple


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22448
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To teach Apollonia drive! grin
lol lol lol lol lol eek


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22449
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Originally posted by Debra:
I think I should open this thread alongside the wisest decision thread...for parallel's sake wink

What do you think was Michael's Worst decision?
I think he made two bad decisions; both involved underestimating the ruthlessness and reach of "this thing of ours." The first time cost Appolonia V. Corleone her life and the next cost Mary Corleone hers.


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22450
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kill fredo!from then on he lost his family!
and the family is the most important thing for him.and so did vito!



“Don't lie to me. It insults my intelligence. It makes me very angry.”- Michael Coreleone
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22451
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I would have to agree with DMC on this one. Marrying Kay was Micheals worse decision.


Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22452
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after all,Kay is not a Siccilian.She cant understand it.



“Don't lie to me. It insults my intelligence. It makes me very angry.”- Michael Coreleone
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22453
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Having Vincent take over the family, what with the thing between Vincent and Mary ... maybe not his worst decision, but pretty poor.


"My wife was weeping before she fell asleep, outside my window I saw my Caporegimes coming to the house and it is midnight. So, Consigliori of mine, I think you should tell your Don what everyone knows."
Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22454
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Originally posted by 4th Corleone:
... the family is the most important thing for him.and so did vito!
And apparently not the most important thing for Fredo (TRAITOR).

Apple


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22455
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Assuming that after he abandoned his position as Godfather everything would be allright. If he wouldn't have assumed this then maybe he would've been better protected at The Opera and that would've prevented his daughter's Death


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Re: Michael Corleone - Worst Decision #22456
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Marying Kay,and killing Fredo


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