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If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209236
03/31/05 11:48 AM
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What story outline would you really want to see if Godfather 4 was made.

If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See
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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209237
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I'd want to see Mchael's life after the death of his daughter, because you can't have a Godfather film without Pacino. The story would follow Vincent's life as The Don aswell but the main focus would be Michael


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209238
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Rough Part IV outline

- Picks up shortly after Kay's death (about 3 years since Mary's death)
- Vincent is still the Don.
- Vincent wants Michael as consigliere, in hopes to avoid all the tragedies that Michael experienced.
- Michael objects, moves to Sicily.
- Vincent moves ahead with business, which involves being the minority owner of a fictional New York baseball team.
- When the majority owner of the team wants to move to Las Vegas, Vincent objects. Vincent wants the team to stay in NYC.
- Vincent slowly comes to realize that the owner of the baseball team and a powerful casino owner in LV are conspiring against him.

- Subplot involves Anthony's fall from grace as an opera singer to a drug addict.
- Anthony is helped by a famed NYC caregiver who nurses him back to health and saves his opera career.
- The caregiver is a distant relative to Don Cicci, who is seeking revenge on the Corleone family for murdering his ancestors and ruining the family name. The caregiver has joined forces with the baseball owner and the LV casino owner
- When Anthony realizes the plot against his family, he joins Vincent against Michael's wishes.
- As the plot to kill Vincent evolves and eventually results in a failed assassination, Vincent and Anthony flee to Sicily and join Michael who reluctantly takes them in.
- There, Vincent, Anthony and Michael (still reluctant) plot out Vincent and Anthony's revenge.
- Vincent falls in love with a native Sicilian girl and marries her.

- Vincent and Anthony return to the states and seek revenge on baseball owner, LV casino owner and NYC caregiver.
- Michael surprises Vincent and Anthony at the Corleone Estate after the assassinations on the baseball owner, casino owner and caregiver.
- Michael pleads for Anthony to leave the family life, join him in Sicily and pick up his opera career.
- In the end, Anthony, who was never to be associated with the family, per Michael's wishes, has become a part of the family, thus setting up a potential power struggle between Vincent and Anthony in a Part V.
- The final scene shows Vincent and Anthony together in a den, conspiring against future enemies. They look up at Michael who stands outside the den. The door is closed in his face.

END

Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209239
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That was a very well thought out plot. And i agree that it should be a film after mary dies but before micheal's death. Becuase if it was after micheal's death vincent would be too old for Andy to play unless they fix him up like they did with BRando in GFI, but they need to have Al pacino anyway. I would love to see a movie based before Godfather I and after the young vito corleone parts in GFII becuase i always felt like there was missing story. but its too late for that, it wouldnt be the same if it had different actors.

Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209240
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Quote:
Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger:
Rough Part IV outline

- Picks up shortly after Kay's death (about 3 years since Mary's death)
- Vincent is still the Don.
- Vincent wants Michael as consigliere, in hopes to avoid all the tragedies that Michael experienced.
- Michael objects, moves to Sicily.
- Vincent moves ahead with business, which involves being the minority owner of a fictional New York baseball team.
- When the majority owner of the team wants to move to Las Vegas, Vincent objects. Vincent wants the team to stay in NYC.
- Vincent slowly comes to realize that the owner of the baseball team and a powerful casino owner in LV are conspiring against him.

- Subplot involves Anthony's fall from grace as an opera singer to a drug addict.
- Anthony is helped by a famed NYC caregiver who nurses him back to health and saves his opera career.
- The caregiver is a distant relative to Don Cicci, who is seeking revenge on the Corleone family for murdering his ancestors and ruining the family name. The caregiver has joined forces with the baseball owner and the LV casino owner
- When Anthony realizes the plot against his family, he joins Vincent against Michael's wishes.
- As the plot to kill Vincent evolves and eventually results in a failed assassination, Vincent and Anthony flee to Sicily and join Michael who reluctantly takes them in.
- There, Vincent, Anthony and Michael (still reluctant) plot out Vincent and Anthony's revenge.
- Vincent falls in love with a native Sicilian girl and marries her.

- Vincent and Anthony return to the states and seek revenge on baseball owner, LV casino owner and NYC caregiver.
- Michael surprises Vincent and Anthony at the Corleone Estate after the assassinations on the baseball owner, casino owner and caregiver.
- Michael pleads for Anthony to leave the family life, join him in Sicily and pick up his opera career.
- In the end, Anthony, who was never to be associated with the family, per Michael's wishes, has become a part of the family, thus setting up a potential power struggle between Vincent and Anthony in a Part V.
- The final scene shows Vincent and Anthony together in a den, conspiring against future enemies. They look up at Michael who stands outside the den. The door is closed in his face.

END
Woah. Nice ideas.


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209241
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Quote:
Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger:
Rough Part IV outline

- Picks up shortly after Kay's death (about 3 years since Mary's death)
- Vincent is still the Don.
- Vincent wants Michael as consigliere, in hopes to avoid all the tragedies that Michael experienced.
- Michael objects, moves to Sicily.
- Vincent moves ahead with business, which involves being the minority owner of a fictional New York baseball team.
- When the majority owner of the team wants to move to Las Vegas, Vincent objects. Vincent wants the team to stay in NYC.
- Vincent slowly comes to realize that the owner of the baseball team and a powerful casino owner in LV are conspiring against him.

- Subplot involves Anthony's fall from grace as an opera singer to a drug addict.
- Anthony is helped by a famed NYC caregiver who nurses him back to health and saves his opera career.
- The caregiver is a distant relative to Don Cicci, who is seeking revenge on the Corleone family for murdering his ancestors and ruining the family name. The caregiver has joined forces with the baseball owner and the LV casino owner
- When Anthony realizes the plot against his family, he joins Vincent against Michael's wishes.
- As the plot to kill Vincent evolves and eventually results in a failed assassination, Vincent and Anthony flee to Sicily and join Michael who reluctantly takes them in.
- There, Vincent, Anthony and Michael (still reluctant) plot out Vincent and Anthony's revenge.
- Vincent falls in love with a native Sicilian girl and marries her.

- Vincent and Anthony return to the states and seek revenge on baseball owner, LV casino owner and NYC caregiver.
- Michael surprises Vincent and Anthony at the Corleone Estate after the assassinations on the baseball owner, casino owner and caregiver.
- Michael pleads for Anthony to leave the family life, join him in Sicily and pick up his opera career.
- In the end, Anthony, who was never to be associated with the family, per Michael's wishes, has become a part of the family, thus setting up a potential power struggle between Vincent and Anthony in a Part V.
- The final scene shows Vincent and Anthony together in a den, conspiring against future enemies. They look up at Michael who stands outside the den. The door is closed in his face.

END
Good ending.

Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209242
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Every time I try to get out I get sucked back in.

Ok...if we must, it should follow the formula of the other films...starting with a religious event and the socializing afterwords.

Opening Scene ... Mary's Funeral.... The priest is delivering the Eulogy during which time he explains that the body has been brought "home" to New York where she will be buried...as the eulogy goes on the camera shows the faces of the family, and it also shows us the new characters to whom we will be introduced sitting in the church. We then see her interrment at the site of Vito's tomb, while we are still hearing the voiceover of the eulogy.

Cut to: A very somber "reception" at Michael's apartment. Micheal and Kay are again estranged, but she is there as is Connie, VIncent etc.

It is Vincent who is doing the behind the scenes dealing ...he will need a new consigliere...and through this we are introduced to various people who are offering to help Vincent maintain control of Immobiliare, and in the group of course is an unknown enemy...it should probably be someone who is advising Vincent that the family could become legitimate by selling off its shares, and that a meeting can be arranged to have this done. Vincent agrees to go to the meeteing where...

THERE IS A Failed HIT ATTEMPT ON VINCENT... the twist is that as insurance "they" have kidnapped Anthony and are holding him hostage promising to let him go only if Vincent agrees not to go to the mattresses AND sell Immobiliare at a huge loss.

more to come....anyone who wants to pick this plot line up may do so//


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209243
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I would glady go see The Godfather 4 but none of my friends would do with me. I would love to see it in on a movie screen.


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209244
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i hope that another godfather is made in my time...


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209245
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I like to see Vincent as Don and let mike rest in
the grave so they can set up new people we can get to love

Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209246
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Quote:
Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger:
Rough Part IV outline

- Picks up shortly after Kay's death (about 3 years since Mary's death)
- Vincent is still the Don.
- Vincent wants Michael as consigliere, in hopes to avoid all the tragedies that Michael experienced.
- Michael objects, moves to Sicily.
- Vincent moves ahead with business, which involves being the minority owner of a fictional New York baseball team.
- When the majority owner of the team wants to move to Las Vegas, Vincent objects. Vincent wants the team to stay in NYC.
- Vincent slowly comes to realize that the owner of the baseball team and a powerful casino owner in LV are conspiring against him.

- Subplot involves Anthony's fall from grace as an opera singer to a drug addict.
- Anthony is helped by a famed NYC caregiver who nurses him back to health and saves his opera career.
- The caregiver is a distant relative to Don Cicci, who is seeking revenge on the Corleone family for murdering his ancestors and ruining the family name. The caregiver has joined forces with the baseball owner and the LV casino owner
- When Anthony realizes the plot against his family, he joins Vincent against Michael's wishes.
- As the plot to kill Vincent evolves and eventually results in a failed assassination, Vincent and Anthony flee to Sicily and join Michael who reluctantly takes them in.
- There, Vincent, Anthony and Michael (still reluctant) plot out Vincent and Anthony's revenge.
- Vincent falls in love with a native Sicilian girl and marries her.

- Vincent and Anthony return to the states and seek revenge on baseball owner, LV casino owner and NYC caregiver.
- Michael surprises Vincent and Anthony at the Corleone Estate after the assassinations on the baseball owner, casino owner and caregiver.
- Michael pleads for Anthony to leave the family life, join him in Sicily and pick up his opera career.
- In the end, Anthony, who was never to be associated with the family, per Michael's wishes, has become a part of the family, thus setting up a potential power struggle between Vincent and Anthony in a Part V.
- The final scene shows Vincent and Anthony together in a den, conspiring against future enemies. They look up at Michael who stands outside the den. The door is closed in his face.

END
is this your idea cause i seen this exact story line about 6 months ago in another thread!


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209247
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I like the idea of the story picking up after the death of Mary.

However, I think that it must portray Michael as a shadow of his former self. The death of his daughter brings him to the realization that, rather than protecting his family, he has destroyed it. I just don't see him as having the emotional and psychological strength in the least to be involved in any further family machinations.


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209248
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I thought Michael wanted his son into the business. I really dont like the ending but it sounds good. The door geting shut in his face wouldn't be godfatherish because the hole trilogy is about him and it would be stupid in the last movie to have him look stupid and weak.


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Turn that thing off! You should be out stealing! Lefty
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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209249
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is this your idea cause i seen this exact story line about 6 months ago in another thread!
Yes, that was my idea. I was e-mailing another poster here and we came out with this general plot-line.

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I thought Michael wanted his son into the business. I really dont like the ending but it sounds good. The door geting shut in his face wouldn't be godfatherish because the hole trilogy is about him and it would be stupid in the last movie to have him look stupid and weak.
Not really. Michael wanted Tony to be a lawyer (I think) and maybe wanted him to be involved with the legitimate aspect of the family, but Tony wanted to be a singer, which Michael objected to. But in my storyline, Tony becomes involved with the dirty side of the family business, something that Michael never wanted for his son.

As for the ending, it might be a little contrived, but it would be the final nail in the coffin. I've heard other people's ideas with Michael and Vincent teaming up to seek revenge on all of the family's enemies who are still alive. I don't think Michael has it in him. After Mary's death he has had enough with blooshed and violence. This ending would signify his total seperation from the family business. And who knows, maybe having the door shut in his face is OK with Michael. Maybe he wouldn't take it as an insult. The scene could shed new light on Michael's character instead of just echoing the scene at the end of Part I.

Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209250
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I fully Agree with CorleoneLegend's ideas...
Because WE ALL LOVE MICHAEL CORLEONE!!!
And Anthony becomes the Corleone family lawyer after Mary's death...
And we also want to see Vincet as The Don...
At the same time... The Corleone Family have new enemies with the Sicilian Mafia Families...
wouldnt that be really great...


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209251
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Hello everyone! I am new one to this board, so forgive me for any potential flaws in myw writing. I've been these forums for a very long time, BTW.

I think a prequel would ideal, in my opinion. A prequel to THE GODFATHER, with Don Vito in the middle stage of his life, where he rose to power, following his early "DeNiro" begginings in THE GODFATHER PART II and preluding his quiet "Brando" days in THE GODFATHER. It would be ideal.

Also, as I think DeNiro would be too old or too uninterested in reprising his award-winning role, I'd propose another man for the job:

Edward Norton

I think he's a brilliant actor. He could play Don Vito as a 40-45 year old pretty convincingly. For the rest of the cast, I don't really know, but I do know that Coppola should be invovled in the screeptwriting process of the film. And directing, while Coppola is an excellent director, this prequel, as it details Corleone's rise to power, should be handled by none other, than:

Martin Scorcece

His sensibility and fondness with New York should provide with positive results.

Its all a rough idea, but it could be done.

What do you think?


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I think you have some great ideas in there and the plot you have would be wonderful to watch unfold
The only thing I have a problem with is that the baseball coacdh the LV guy ANd the caregiver all meet up and consprie againt vincent and Anthony I just thing it sounds to random and cheap.....Liike how could the coach and LLV guy even know the Care3giveer and trust him enough to let him in the plot to kill, why woulnd't they just think he was sent from Vincent to find out what there plan is,, eww there's a twist he could really be for Vincent....


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Re: If Godfather 4 was Made What Outlining Story would You Most Want To See #209253
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Quote:
Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger:
Rough Part IV outline

- Picks up shortly after Kay's death (about 3 years since Mary's death)
- Vincent is still the Don.
- Vincent wants Michael as consigliere, in hopes to avoid all the tragedies that Michael experienced.
- Michael objects, moves to Sicily.
- Vincent moves ahead with business, which involves being the minority owner of a fictional New York baseball team.
- When the majority owner of the team wants to move to Las Vegas, Vincent objects. Vincent wants the team to stay in NYC.
- Vincent slowly comes to realize that the owner of the baseball team and a powerful casino owner in LV are conspiring against him.

- Subplot involves Anthony's fall from grace as an opera singer to a drug addict.
- Anthony is helped by a famed NYC caregiver who nurses him back to health and saves his opera career.
- The caregiver is a distant relative to Don Cicci, who is seeking revenge on the Corleone family for murdering his ancestors and ruining the family name. The caregiver has joined forces with the baseball owner and the LV casino owner
- When Anthony realizes the plot against his family, he joins Vincent against Michael's wishes.
- As the plot to kill Vincent evolves and eventually results in a failed assassination, Vincent and Anthony flee to Sicily and join Michael who reluctantly takes them in.
- There, Vincent, Anthony and Michael (still reluctant) plot out Vincent and Anthony's revenge.
- Vincent falls in love with a native Sicilian girl and marries her.

- Vincent and Anthony return to the states and seek revenge on baseball owner, LV casino owner and NYC caregiver.
- Michael surprises Vincent and Anthony at the Corleone Estate after the assassinations on the baseball owner, casino owner and caregiver.
- Michael pleads for Anthony to leave the family life, join him in Sicily and pick up his opera career.
- In the end, Anthony, who was never to be associated with the family, per Michael's wishes, has become a part of the family, thus setting up a potential power struggle between Vincent and Anthony in a Part V.
- The final scene shows Vincent and Anthony together in a den, conspiring against future enemies. They look up at Michael who stands outside the den. The door is closed in his face.

END
Wow good ideas there!



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