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T.O. to stay with the 49ers #235587
02/27/04 12:47 PM
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And thank God, too!

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Terrell Owens is still under contract to the San Francisco 49ers after the star receiver apparently missed a deadline for voiding the rest of his contract.

Owens, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, didn't file the necessary paperwork quickly enough this week to become an unrestricted free agent, according to the NFL Management Council. Owens' agent, David Joseph, will file a grievance.

"We voided the contract. There's an issue now as to whether or not the void was effective," Joseph said.

Owens was among several players required to file by a new deadline, which recently was moved up 10 days for players who signed their contracts before the league's 2001 collective bargaining agreement went into effect.

Cleveland receiver Dennis Northcutt made a similar mistake. The Browns announced Thursday that Northcutt's agent failed to void the final three years of his contract by Feb. 19, keeping him with Cleveland.

By missing the deadline, Owens is under contract to San Francisco through 2006 -- and the 49ers get an unexpected bonus in what's shaping up to be a difficult offseason. The 49ers also released three veterans on Thursday: running back Garrison Hearst, offensive tackle Derrick Deese and defensive lineman Sean Moran.

"I have spoken to the NFL Management Council and they have confirmed that Terrell Owens will not be among the players listed as an unrestricted free agent," 49ers general manager Terry Donahue said.

The mix up doesn't necessarily mean Owens will play for the Niners next season. The team had expected to lose him in free agency for practically nothing, so San Francisco might use Owens' contract status to work out a trade.

Owens is due to make $17.7 million in base salary over the next three seasons, including $5.3 million next year -- a relative bargain for one of the NFL's best receivers.

He had been counting on a big payday in his first venture onto the free-agent market, hoping to land a signing bonus of more than $15 million from Baltimore, Philadelphia, Atlanta or a handful of other teams with the cap space to sign a star receiver.

Owens has spent all eight of his NFL seasons with the 49ers, who drafted him in the third round in 1996. He has been chosen to the last four Pro Bowls, but missed the game earlier this month with a broken collarbone.

Owens and Indianapolis' Marvin Harrison are the only receivers with more than 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns over the past four seasons. Owens had 80 catches for 1,102 yards and nine TDs last season -- his lowest totals since 1999.

Owens also has feuded with teammates, coaches, management and the media in recent seasons. While Owens spoke openly of his desire to move to another team in the offseason, the 49ers designated All-Pro linebacker Julian Peterson as their exclusive franchise player -- apparently conceding they wouldn't sign Owens.
And good thing, too. If we lost Owens...

Says he may not even play, though. What's up with that?


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I think the first order of business for T.O. will be to fire his agent. That is, if the guy doesn't kill himself first.


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Yep, that agent just cost himself a lot of money. $17 million over 3 years... $17 million is what T.O. was seeking as a signing bonus. The agent would have gotten around $700,000 on the potential signing bonus alone, plus whatever his commisions were for the actual yearly salary, which could be 4% of $10 - $15 million per year.

Now, he's just stuck with $700,000 for the entire thing if T.O. ends up staying with the Niners at his old contract.

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I'm sure La Dolce Vita is happy.

It will be interesting what type of spin T.O. will put on this. His ego probably won't allow him to admit that he has an agent who made a mistake.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Owens is gonna love that, especially with Garcia looking to stay.


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They're probably just going to trade T.O. away, though, is what I'm hearing.


the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:
They're probably just going to trade T.O. away, though, is what I'm hearing.
But at least now they can trade him and get something in return for him, rather than just losing him for nothing.

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Yeah, hopefully we get another star -- and now overlooked and under-rated players like Brandon Lloyd can get their chance to shine.


the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
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I read on espn you may be getting an extra pick in the first round of the draft for compensation for Owens to become an FA, which is bullshit. He missed the deadline and tough luck I say.


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The NY Daily News reports today that a trade involving T.O. is likely and Jeff Garcia has been cut. Sounds like a retooling will take place.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Lots of discussion in the Niner community. Those who wanted Jeff's head on a platter for a losing season got their wish while others loyal to the team feel he was a scapegoat.

As a lifelong Niner fan, I personally feel it was time for him to go. I have been watching Tim Rattay since his college days at LA tech and I think he is fresh, raw talent. Niners also have a very capable backup in Dorsey.

My dream plan? For these two QB's to stay healthy all year, find a way to keep Owens (yep, I like him!) drop Zack Bronson and the NUMBER ONE priority - KEEPING JULIAN PETERSON - the Niners may not be Super Bowl bound for a while, but at least on the upswing.

Good luck to Garcia wherever he gets picked up (Baltimore? San Diego? no, NOT DETROIT like some people think! ). I am a Niner fan that can't forget what good he DID DO for the team. It's just time to move on.


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Amen. I agree there, LDV. While I love Garcia, I think it's time for him to go. We have other priorities and another QB who is fresh talent. Hell, my friend even says Rattay is better than Garcia. I dunno, I haven't seen enough of him but I know enough to know he can really back up our team and he's fresh enough to do so. I hope we can SOMEHOW keep Owens [which seems almost impossible as of now] and keep Julian Peterson. It's gonna be a longer year for us Niner fans.


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ooops! Did I say yesterday Baltimore might be looking for a QB and sniffing around Garcia?

Um, guess not since T.O. is going to be a Raven now. Ugh! Only good thing is maybe San Fran can draft 3 good picks (do you suppose?)

I cried when big Joe left. I cried when Steve Young was done. I even cried when Seattle took old Turkey neck Merton Hanks. My eyes are dry now. But I think I might be planning a trip this year to Baltimore to see my pal Bethie. Just for old time's sake. Goodbye T.O. Hope you have as much success as Jerry Rice has had with the Raider Faders! See ya in the Fall!

Anthony: Think Rattay-Barlow-Lloyd-PETERSON....make it your mantra!


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I got home and heard on the news about The Ravens getting T.O. My first thought I had going through my mind was, "Don't hate me Buffster cause I'm a Baltimoron". :p Then I figured if a man hasn't come between us yet, they ain't gonna.

Come to "The City that Bleeds", Buffy. We'll visit the Purple Palace and go to the Harbor for a crabcake. And I don't mean me.!


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They got him for a freaking 2nd round pick.


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
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You'd rather he'd go to Philly for 1st round pick? Like that would've happened!!

btw - Plummer is talking to the Mooch in Detroit. At this rate, we will see hardly any familiar faces at Niner Camp this season...


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I have a history of taking off my shirt.....
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Quote:
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I got home and heard on the news about The Ravens getting T.O. My first thought I had going through my mind was, "Don't hate me Buffster cause I'm a Baltimoran". :p Then I figured if a man hasn't come between us yet, they ain't gonna.

Come to "The City that Bleeds", Buffy. We'll visit the Purple Palace and go to the Harbor for a crabcake. And I don't mean me.!
City that Bleeds? Dare I ask? Purple Palace? Dare I ask part deux?

Tell Boller to work on that arm. I anxiously await to see how the dynamics of this new (old)kid on the block Owens pans out and how well he plays with the others.

How 'bout them COWWWWWBOYSSSSSS? They have to deal with Keyshawn and his ego!


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Quote:
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How 'bout them COWWWWWBOYSSSSSS? They have to deal with Keyshawn and his ego!
I think if anyone can control him, Parcells can. He's played under him before and Keyshawn has already publicly spoken about his respect in old Tuna.


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Good point Turi. It will be interesting to see Keyshawn keep a lid on it. I bet he can't right around mid-season. Drama

You'll have to excuse me. I live in New Mexico which gives me license to despise everything Texas.

Additionally - as a Niner fan I despise everything Cowboys


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Fair enough, I'm a Steelers fan so I hate the Browns, Bengals and the Ravens. And to an extent Tennessy.

I do fear for another losing season. We are unlikely to make any hot moves. The draft should be interesting though, we need a a lot of positions to tinker with.


So die all who betray Giuliano
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] I got home and heard on the news about The Ravens getting T.O. My first thought I had going through my mind was, "Don't hate me Buffster cause I'm a Baltimoran". :p Then I figured if a man hasn't come between us yet, they ain't gonna.

Come to "The City that Bleeds", Buffy. We'll visit the Purple Palace and go to the Harbor for a crabcake. And I don't mean me.!
City that Bleeds? Dare I ask? Purple Palace? Dare I ask part deux?

Tell Boller to work on that arm. I anxiously await to see how the dynamics of this new (old)kid on the block Owens pans out and how well he plays with the others.

How 'bout them COWWWWWBOYSSSSSS? They have to deal with Keyshawn and his ego! [/b][/quote]About 20 years ago our Mayor nicknamed Baltimore, "The City That Reads", promoting the libraries. With the murder rate the townspeople gave it a more proper nickname. The Purple Palace is the nickname for M&T Stadium, because it looks like Barney threw up there. Sorry, it's the not the name of a male strip club.

I just hope T.O. doesn't get lonely out there considering Kyle Boller can't throw for shit. I still think Kyle and Scott Wolf were separated at birth.


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Quote:
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You'd rather he'd go to Philly for 1st round pick? Like that would've happened!!
I like the Packers. -Pat


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Now we're gonna lose Plummer?

We're losing everyone.


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Now that we are talking football, I got thinking the other day about next years toughest divisions.

You could definetly make a strong case that the NFC East which was arguably the weakest division 2 years ago, is now the toughest division. The Eagles are still amazing and the adition of Kearse should help their already stellar defense. The Redskins are undoubtly this years super star hungry money spending team, as they were last year. Portis should revolutionize their offense. The loss of Bailey while big, will probably be minor thanks to the adition of Springs. The Cowboys will be great, and it really pains me to say it too. What Parcells did in one year was phenominal. What he will do in year 2 will be even more amazing. Chances are that Keyshawn will go to the Cowboys and before you count that showboat out, remember that Parcells was the only coach which he really shined under. The cowboys will be a force to be reckoned with. Now its anyones guess with the Giants. They could be terrible like this last season, and they could be great. I hope its the latter, and I think it will be too. While they havent made virtually any deals yet, I think they will do well in the draft, and the talent already on the team should make them an elite team.

You could argue that the top dog is the AFC central, but I think that the NFC East is this coming seasons new top dog.


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Quote:
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Additionally - as a Niner fan I despise everything Cowboys
Hey, Hey, Hey now La Dolce Vita. when you go dissing the Cowboys, you dis me, they're my favorite team.

Although from my perspective the jury is still out on whether we should go after Keyshawn Johnson, and his ego which unfortunatly comes with him.

I heard though that the cowboys may give up a late draft pick to Tampa Bay in return for KJ. That I might be able to live with.

But like someone already mentioned Bill Parcells is one tough no-nonsense coach, who's very capable of handling KJ


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You have no idea how happy i'll be if the TO contract falls through due to his grievance. He's already unhappy and if he somehow does manage to get to Philly i'll be ecstatic. We have a crappy CB situation at the moment and it looks like nothing is being done during the FA period. Everyone is slipping through our fingers eg. Winfield etc.


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Quote:
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You have no idea how happy i'll be if the TO contract falls through due to his grievance. He's already unhappy and if he somehow does manage to get to Philly i'll be ecstatic.
You and me both. I am not the biggest TO fan but at this point we need WR help desperately and he is simply the best WR available. I heard they are going to file a grievance and the Ravens now say they may trade him - as long as they will get more than the 2nd round pick they gave up. I think in the end he'll be with Da Birds. TO himself said 'Right now I would say TO is unemployed'. HA - I love when athletes refer to themselves in the third person - cracks me up.

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Reminds me of one of my favorite beer commercials...

Reporter: You don't think those four fumbles played a part in the loss?

Leon: Not if one of those guys fell on the ball, once again, Leon can't do everything.


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Hahaha, I love those commercials.

Man, TO is being shifted around quite a bit... I wonder where he'll finally end up. Alot of surprises have happened around these times.


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I liked TO a lot b/c he was wit my team the Niners. Now he's with the Ravens who I cannot stand (they're cocky punks). However TO isn't happy with the trade & he wants to play for the Eagles. What do you guys think? He going to Phily or staying in Baltimore? Also, how sweet would it be to see McNabb & TO?

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