Can anybody believe how classless and low the Boston Red Cocks are? I mean, yeah they win a World Series and think that they get some respect back now (which they still don't), and then people like Trot Nixon (who!?), David Wells, and the mouthpiece of the Boston Red Cocks, Mr. A**hole himself, Curt Schilling. Why don't they just shut the f*ck up and play the game and let that do the talking for them? At least the Yankees have the class and composure to not get into a war of words and let they actions/playing ability speak for itself. Anybody have any thoughts on the subject?

Are you going to tell us what happened, or...??

yeah now I'm curious. what the hell did these guys say??

I thought some other people would have heard about it. Just go to ESPN or FoxSports . They've got them on there. Sorry, I assumed people had heard what they said.

The REd Sox are in for a bad season. The only way they think they have a chance against the Yanks is by trying to get in there heads. The Yanks and Torre are to smart to let that happen.

Exactly. I'm actually kinda glad for 2 reasons. It fuels the Yankees anger even more, and 2, it shows how classes the Red Cocks are. I can't wait until the Yankees win the World Series! And when they do, I wanna see it publicized as much as Boston's win was! And ever week I wanna hear about either Randy Johnson or A-Rod and what their thoughts/feelings are towards the Red Cocks

So what happened? ESPN is showing nothing.

It's the top headline on the homepage

No matter how good this season may be for the Yankees, I do not think that will ever get as publicized as last year's Red Sox team. It was a greater achievement with a larger magnitude.

Yankee fans can't understand that. They can't understand the frustration of coming so close so many times and then having the season get robbed from them in the last few days. They can't understand the frustration of waiting for 86 years to get the big title.

The Yankees are EXPECTED to win. They have the big payroll; they have the big names. What fun is there in rooting for them?

Do I expect the Sox to repeat? Hell no! They'll be damned lucky to just to make any playoffs. They haven't done squat to strengthen their team in this past winter. But, nobody can take the '04 championship season away from them. Yankee fans can't understand that.

Except for every year since 2000. :p But yeah, of course, I don't know exactly what a BoSox fan has gone through, waiting 86 -- EIGHTY SIX -- years! But, I do get the jist of it, I think.

I never felt bitter about losing, or bitter that the Sox won. I said it then, and I say it now: the Sox deserved to win. They won't again anytime soon, but, they deserved it last year. (Well, part of me just thinks the Yanks (i.e., Rivera, again) blew it -- like so many other times -- but hey, I'm reaching out here! )

But what I don't understand is, why I12 couldn't copy/paste what was said - cuz it's not the headline any more -- and a year from now if someone's looking at this thread, it still won't be. :p

I'm surprised you didn't hear anything about that on the local news. They were playing it up quite a bit a few days ago. Apparently David Wells had a lot to say about Joe Torre and ARod, and none of it was nice. (I really didn't pay much attention to it, figuring he has some issues and its sour grapes anyway).

I don't really watch local news on TV.

I assume this is the shit he was talking about.

As for Wells -- I like him, as a player and a partier (lol). But if that scumbag -- or ANYONE -- could possibly have anything bad to say about Torre, then, well, he - is - my - enemy! :p But, I don't believe it. He's never been classless as far as I've known him.

Here's some of an article written from wire reports on Feb 18th:

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After switching sides and joining the Boston Red Sox, David Wells quickly had some choice words for the New York Yankees. Wells reported to spring training in Tampa, Fla., yesterday, saying Alex Rodriguez "has to earn it" and saying he didn't get along with Yankees manager Joe Torre.

Wells, who helped New York win two American League pennants and one World Series, wasn't pleased with some of Rodriguez's remarks.

"I remember reading the press conference or something when he went there," Wells said. "He said: 'When we.' He said a 'we' in his comment about like he's won like three or four rings with them and he hadn't, and that kind of disturbed me.

"He shouldn't put himself in that category," Wells added. "You've got to earn it. It's like he's been there the whole time. But you can't take away what A-Rod has done for the game. He's a great player, and he will continue to be a great player."

As for Torre, Wells said: "I've never had a good relationship with Joe."

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Okay: First of, Fort Myers isn't that close to Tampa (where the YANKS practice).

Secondly, I'm sure the lifelong Yankee fan that Wells is was just being defensive and jealous that A-Rod's on the team and he isn't. I'm not gonna say that Wells isn't being childish, but, I'm sure it's biting his ass.

Thirdly, his comment about Torre... that's probably because he got ragged out for going out drinking and shit. Natural reaction.

Wells just sounded like an idiot. So be it - been there, done that!

I agree.... like I said earlier, "sour grapes".

As for A-Rod, I'm not gonna defend him cuz he really didn't perform last year. He was bordering on a liability for a long while. A-la Giambi.

Perhaps it's busting his ass that his best friend is Captain and he had to give up that title after a short while. But f-im. Show us something first, big shot!

But I don't hate the guy. I'll give him another chance. NY is a tough city to play in -- regardless of boro -- and regardless of the fact that George likes washed-up "names" -- A-Rod isn't washed up yet. But the pressure does get to A LOT of great players who go there.

See: Cansuco, Fielder, Giambi, Knoblockhead, ...

Or the last out!
October 1986 Game 6 WS
Boston leads Series 3 games to 2
1 Strike Away from the World Championship!

LET'S GO METS!

SC, what in the world ever made you become a Red Sox fan? A Brooklyn Dodger fan such as yourself surely should have made the transition to rooting for the Mets. Just think, you would have had a championship in 1969 instead of waiting until 2004!


Don Cardi

Geoff,

In defense of A-Rod's declining numbers last season, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because changing from SS to 3B is a big transition, it affects your play overall mentally and it probably takes a season to fall into the new position. But as for the pressure of playing in New York, true that many cannot handle it, but this guy is being paid the big $$'s to handle playing under the "pressure" here.


Don Cardi

I couldn't agree more with what you said. I think some people's expectations of A-Rod last year were a little unrealistic (must like Randy Johnson will have this year). I knew he wouldn't put up the numbers last year that he did in Texas. He isn't Superman and I think a lot of people tried to make him out to be. Sure Sheffield adjusted nicely to New York, but A-Rod's not Sheffield. I predict that A-Rod will have a better year this year (he still had a great year batting .286 with 36 HR's and 106 RBI's). As for being the "Yankee-type" again, he's just been there for ONE season. I think we should give the guy a break.

And that was an off season for him!
How many teams in MLB would turn those kinds of stats away? If I owned a team and a player guaranteed those kinds of numbers, I'd sign him in a heartbeat!

Don Cardi

So would I. But not for $25 million a year.

A Rod had a good season by any standards, except the standard of what he was paid.

Based on his contract, I consider him a bust last year.

And that was an off season for him!
How many teams in MLB would turn those kinds of stats away? If I owned a team and a player guaranteed those kinds of numbers, I'd sign him in a heartbeat!

Don Cardi [/b][/quote]Exactly! And that was an off year for him. Wait until he has a more productive year. He just needed to get used to playing in the atmosphere that is New York. Now with this being his 2nd season, I think he'll be more comfortable. I don't think he'll still post numbers like he did in Texas (50+ home runs, I don't know if he'll ever do that again), but I predict he should hit over 40 this year.

It sounds like there are alot of people on the board who knows alot about baseball. This is kinda of topic but I want other peoples opinion on the Detroit Tigers. They made some pretty good offseason moves the last two years.

Im just curious to see what you guys think.

Thanks

Yeah they did some pretty good moves. I think they might have a chance to beat out the Twins and win the division

A-Rod did not have that bad of a season. People act like he hit only 20 hr's and batted .250

Exactly. He had a great year if he was on any other ball club. I don't think he'll ever be as productive as he was in Texas hitting 50+ home runs. But I think he'll have a better year this year and hit at least 40

He will hit 40 with no problem this year. MVP...MVP...MVP.

Personally, I'm going for Sheffield to get the MVP again. Last year he should have gotten it (although Vlad did have a phenomial year), but Sheff was injured much of last year and STILL put up those numbers that he did. That's a warrior right there. That's the "Yankee-type." I'm so excited to see him play this year healthy! And guess who I'm going for for AL Cy Young Award winner? I'll give you a hint, he's over 6 feet tall and he pitches for the Yankees!

I see the Yanks winning at least 120 games.