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NFL Draft #251006
03/03/05 05:30 PM
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San Francisco holds first pick in 2005 draft


NEW YORK -- The San Francisco 49ers will make the first choice of the 2005 National Football League Draft on April 23-24.

The 49ers' choice will be followed by the Miami Dolphins picking second and Cleveland Browns third. Draft-order ties are resolved by the cumulative record of each team's opponents. The team with the weaker opponents receives drafting priority.

Within a tied segment, non-playoff clubs are given priority over playoff clubs. Priority of playoff clubs within a tied segment are based on their advancement in the playoffs unless they participated in the Super Bowl. The NFL champion Patriots select 32nd with the runner-up Eagles 31st.

2005 NFL FIRST-ROUND DRAFT ORDER
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                                         Strength
No.  Club         Win Loss Tie  Percent  of Sched     Opp. Record  
1.  San Francisco  2  14    0     .125     .488        125-131-0  
2.  Miami          4  12    0     .250     .555        142-114-0  
3.  Cleveland      4  12    0     .250     .590        151-105-0  
4.  Chicago        5  11    0     .313     .465        119-137-0  
5.  Tampa Bay      5  11    0     .313     .477        122-134-0  
6.  Tennessee      5  11    0     .313     .512        131-125-0  
7.  Minnesota
(from Oakland)     5  11    0     .313     .570        146-110-0  
8.  Arizona        6  10    0     .375     .461        118-138-0  
9.  Washington     6  10    0     .375     .477        122-134-0  
10. Detroit        6  10    0     .375     .496        127-129-0  
11. Dallas #       6  10    0     .375     .516        132-124-0  
12. San Diego
(from N.Y. Giants) 6  10    0     .375     .516        132-124-0  
13. Houston        7   9    0     .438     .504        129-127-0  
14. Carolina       7   9    0     .438     .508        130-126-0  
15. Kansas City    7   9    0     .438     .551        141-115-0  
16. New Orleans    8   8    0     .500     .465        119-137-0  
17. Cincinnati     8   8    0     .500     .543        139-117-0  
18. Minnesota      8   8    0     .500     .480        123-133-0  
19. St. Louis      8   8    0     .500     .488        125-131-0  
20. Dallas
(from Buffalo)     9   7    0     .563     .512        131-125-0  
21. Jacksonville   9   7    0     .563     .527        135-121-0  
22. Baltimore      9   7    0     .563     .551        141-115-0  
23. Seattle        9   7    0     .563     .445        114-142-0  
24. Green Bay     10   6    0     .625     .457        117-139-0  
25. Denver        10   6    0     .625     .484        124-132-0  
26. N.Y. Jets     10   6    0     .625     .523        134-122-0  
27. Atlanta       11   5    0     .688     .434        111-145-0  
28. San Diego     12   4    0     .750     .477        122-134-0  
29. Indianapolis  12   4    0     .750     .500        128-128-0  
30. Pittsburgh    15   1    0     .938     .484        124-132-0  
31. Philadelphia  13   3    0     .813     .453        116-140-0  
32. New England   14   2    0     .875     .492        126-130-0  
# Dallas selects before N.Y. Giants due todivision tiebreaker 
(Giants led in head-to-head, defeating Cowboys twice).


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Re: NFL Draft #251007
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I love this time of year. As much as I hate having no NFL games, other substitutes have helped. Free Agency has started well, look at the Raiders' new additions. As much as Collins is mocked, you know he can throw a good deepball and when the DB's back off you'll see Jordon gaining good yardage.

Even the Browns have got the ball rolling, good coaching personnel changes and with Crennel comes Andruzzi.

Green Bay has lost two starting guards. Will this influence Favre's retirement decision?

Now the draft, forgive me, but I'm only really up to date with the top players. Still FA to go but I'm excited to see where the top RB's WR's and DB's go and how the combine has affected peoples mock drafts. Less excitement around the QB pool this year. Questions have arisen from their height and arm strength.

I'd like to ask everyone, who's your team, what are your needs and who would you like to see drafted?


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Re: NFL Draft #251008
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The Browns. We need everything. I'd like to see us trade down and acquire more picks. But the top of the draft is not as clear cut as in year's past, so I don't think we'll trade.

If the Browns stand pat at #3, I'd like to get LB from Texas Derrick Johnson. The 'experts' are touting him as the best LB in the past 10 years to come out of the draft. I will be so annoyed if the Browns take a QB, unless it's Leinhart in the supplemental (as it's been rumored he may be coming out that way).

I'm just glad we already started addressing our most pressing need: offensive lineman by signing Andruzzi away from NE. If we could get Cosey Coleman from TB or a tackle, that would help tremendously. Plus we got rid of Gerard "Big (Waste of) Money" Warren - an underachiever on the field and trouble maker off of it. If someone will give us a bag of balls for William Green, I would be happy.

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I was hopeing the Giants would sign Andruzzi.


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Re: NFL Draft #251010
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I love this time of year almost as much as I love the actual season. I watch the NFL draft every single year on ESPN.

I'm excited to see what my Cowboys will do with 2 1st round picks.


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Quote:
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I love this time of year almost as much as I love the actual season. I watch the NFL draft every single year on ESPN.

I'm excited to see what my Cowboys will do with 2 1st round picks.
Hey Iceman
The Cowboys are my second favorite team. I read an article on Yahoo Sports claiming Parcells is on the hot seat & that this is probably his last year. Have you heard anything along those lines? The article claimed that Parcells has lost the players' respect and that the Tuna doesn't believe in Henson at all.

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I don't just think Parcells has lost the respect of the players but also his own enthusiasm for the game. You must admit there's a big difference in his tone when he's doing press conferences compared to what he used to be like.


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Quote:
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I love this time of year almost as much as I love the actual season. I watch the NFL draft every single year on ESPN.
I love this time of year also. To bad my Giants dont have a 1st round pick. They did make some good free agent moves though.


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Re: NFL Draft #251014
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I don't just think Parcells has lost the respect of the players but also his own enthusiasm for the game. You must admit there's a big difference in his tone when he's doing press conferences compared to what he used to be like.
You raise some interesting points. I read that Parcells took the Dallas job (in part) because he just got divorced and his ex-wife cleaned him out financially. I'm sure he had his football reasons too, no doubt. But his last 2 stints as a head coach ended early and I think he wants to come into a situation and win now. If he believes it will take 5 years, he wants no part of it. I'll be surprised if he's back in Dallas after this season is over.

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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by The Iceman:
[b] I love this time of year almost as much as I love the actual season. I watch the NFL draft every single year on ESPN.

I'm excited to see what my Cowboys will do with 2 1st round picks.
Hey Iceman
The Cowboys are my second favorite team. I read an article on Yahoo Sports claiming Parcells is on the hot seat & that this is probably his last year. Have you heard anything along those lines? The article claimed that Parcells has lost the players' respect and that the Tuna doesn't believe in Henson at all. [/b][/quote]I haven't heard anything about that. But it wouldn't surprise me since the Cowboys signed Drew Bledsoe. No way in hell is he the answer at QB. This tells me that Parcells wants to win and now.

Now as for Bill not believing in Henson, well I don't blame him in that case. Cause neither do I.


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With the 7th choice in the NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select...RANDY MOSS.

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The Giants should have gone after him. Imagine him and Coughlin together!!!!


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Re: NFL Draft #251018
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Originally I didn't get a good feeling about the QB's in this draft, there was no stand out star like previous years when you knew a QB would be the first overall pick and you also knew which one. The top QB's I've read about just haven't fit the bill and there was talk about the teams drafting early maybe trading down (49ers for example (all rumour)).

With what I've read about Alex Smiths private workout yesterday, and unless Aaron Rogers does something special on his workout Thursday, he's going to be the top overall QB selected and probably at #1. Before he was touted as the most NFL ready QB but still behind Rogers. But after such an impressive performance at his workout he should have no trouble in the draft.


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Aaaah Rogers had an equally impressive workout today. Choosing the top QB picked is going to be tough, I'll stick with Smith based on the fact he's probably physically better prepared for the NFL though his arm strength is questionable.


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Re: NFL Draft #251020
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The Packers absolutely need to address their holes in the secondary in this year's draft. They lost Darren Sharper to the rival Vikings, and their young corners arent showing many signs of life right now. I don't want Favre to go out on a horrible season.

As far as my second team (San Diego Chargers) goes, I am anxious to see what they do with their two 1st-Round picks. The trade for Eli Manning last year has seemed to work out for both sides so far.


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The Packers also lost a lot of there offensive line this year also due to free agency. They may look to take a linemen in the 1st round.


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Re: NFL Draft #251022
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I'm not going to be able to watch the draft this year. I'll be on my senior class trip.


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I'm not going to be able to watch the draft this year. I'll be on my senior class trip.
Unlucky but this will be my first year of watching it. It's actually being shown here on an obscure channel I subscribe to. "And the Steelers with their #30 pick draft....."


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"And the Steelers with their #30 pick draft....."
Get no one of any particular value. :p

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[quote]Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
[b] "And the Steelers with their #30 pick draft....."
Get no one of any particular value. :p [/b][/quote]You know, I actually agree. First rounders are generally associated as being high impact players and get at least a considerable amount of starting time (except maybe QB's) even if it is on special teams.

By 30th all the top CB's will be gone which will probably see us taking a DL - Shaun Cody? There's a lot of talk of Heath Miller and Matt Jones but as far as I thought, Miller should be gone by then (unless his injury has dropped him that much) and Matt Jones is realistically a versatile 2nd or 3rd rounder. Our Steeler fans seem obsessed with getting another Randle El or Ward, guys who can play receiver but were QB's.

You live closer to it all Goombah and work with a Steeler fan. Has he expressed his opinions on the draft?


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Since the Giants have no pick in RD 1, this will be the first year in a long time I won't be paying too much attention to the draft. IMO, no team had a better off-season than the Giants with the signings of Jay Feeley, Antonio Pierce, Kareem McKenzie, Plaxico Burress, and a few others. Hopefuly the Giants will find a back-up RB, and some depth on the OL and secondary with the picks they do have.

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The Giants did have a good off season with free agency but I will be watching the draft to see if somehow they can get a 1st round pick with a trade or something.


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Originally posted by goombah:
You live closer to it all Goombah and work with a Steeler fan. Has he expressed his opinions on the draft?
Not really. I suspect they will probably look to shore up their secondary, which has been suspect the past few years. Or perhaps a WR or RB to groom as replacements for Plaxico or the heir to Bus/Staley.

The guy I work with still gripes about not taking safety Mike Doss in 2003. Strangely, he doesn't gripe out last year's draft too much.

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The Giants did have a good off season with free agency but I will be watching the draft to see if somehow they can get a 1st round pick with a trade or something.
I don't think they have much interest in moving into the 1st round anymore. They used up most of their cap space with the free agent signings, and from what I read, they may be looking to make a couple more FA moves once the training camp cuts start this summer.
Having to pay a 1st round pick, would force the Giants to make some more cap moves.

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Good point Just Lou.


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We had a fantasy game for this last year, so watch for it if you're interested.

Here's the thread from LAST YEAR\'S NFL DRAFT GAME


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