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Did Janice make her bones?
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03/28/07 02:23 PM
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And, no...there is no sexual overtone here.  Janice killed Ritchie, a made man. Since Richie was part of Tony's crew, I'm assuming there would be no one to retaliate against her. But is she technically considered a "made woman" since she whacked someone?
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/28/07 02:50 PM
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And, no...there is no sexual overtone here.  Janice killed Ritchie, a made man. Since Richie was part of Tony's crew, I'm assuming there would be no one to retaliate against her. But is she technically considered a "made woman" since she whacked someone? I doubt that very much. Even if she were a man, the act of murdering another made man would not necessarily guarantee that he'd eventually be made himself. Fun question though.
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/28/07 04:55 PM
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And, no...there is no sexual overtone here.  Janice killed Ritchie, a made man. Since Richie was part of Tony's crew, I'm assuming there would be no one to retaliate against her. But is she technically considered a "made woman" since she whacked someone? No sexual overtones? What fun is that then?  I would have to say NO to your question. While Janice actually did kill someone, she did it on her own accord. She did it out of anger and vengence for his hitting her. In the mob, when someone has to make their bones, it's usually on an order from a boss. They tell you specifically who you must kill to make your bones. It must be a cold blooded type killing. One that is not driven by your own anger, yhour seeking vengence or involving your personal feelings. They want to see if you have the cold blood in your veins to kill someone for no other reason except that you've been told to kill them. I'm assuming that it's much easier to kill someone because you are angry with them because your emotions can take over, then to kill someone that you have absolutely nothing against. That's why it is, or was, probably done that way
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
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03/29/07 05:14 AM
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Is there even women in the mafia? Well yes indeed. Try watch the documentary about MiamiĀ“s Drug period, called "Cocaine Cowboys".. Anyway, i found it pretty wierd that Janice killed him. Its like, her motive was not strong enough for actully kill the guy.
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/29/07 11:16 AM
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Well, they'd had her in all of season two, so the character was well-established enough to sort of put away in a dark cupboard to bring out a later date. Dunno, though, maybe it would have been really late, much later than her re-entry in season three - and then again she might not have come back at all. But nah, I reckon she was always coming back for something else if not the funeral; she's an integral part of the show's insight into Tony's psychology... then again, she wasn't really, but is now. It's a very interesting question, though. In fact, Livia's death is such an a coincidental and pivotal turn in the show, you could question where a lot of the characters would have been had Nancy Marchand lived. What an awfully-written post. Blast the hangover from last night. 
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/29/07 11:18 AM
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I think so. Especially if she "wanted" something or if she was in some kind of trouble, she'd come running to Tony. She's a conniving sneaky bitch,  but I find her amusing and think her character adds to the series. As far as her "making her bones", my first answer would be yes. DC makes sense though with his logic, and not to be "women's lib" or anything, but if it were a man would it be considered making his bones?  Now wouldn't it be interesting if the final season ended with Tony dead and/or gone or out of the family and Janice became the "Don-ess".  Heaven forbid!!! TIS
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/29/07 11:36 AM
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Here's another Janice question I thought of. Janice returned for her mother's funeral. If the actress hadn't died in real life, I can only assume they wouldn't have killed the character off. Would Janice had come back for any other reason if her mom hadn't died? The new issue of "TV Guide" (with "The Sopranos" on the cover) mentions that Aida Turturro (sp?) was "pissed" when she "was sent packing on a bus at the end of the second season - she was worried she'd never come back". Its POSSIBLE that if Nancy Marchand had lived the character of Janice may have had a much smaller role. The new issue also alludes to the first upcoming episode is a somewhat hysterical show with Tony and Janice playing Monopoly after drinking too much. FWIW - I agree totally with DC's idea that Janice didn't "make her bones" when she killed Richie Aprile simply because that killing was not an ordered hit.
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
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03/29/07 11:46 AM
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What do you think the purpose of Tony's other sister was?  I can't even remember her name, but they only have shown her what once or twice? Do you think they intended to use her more and then sort of wrote her out? TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Did Janice make her bones?
[Re: Beth E]
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03/29/07 12:15 PM
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Some of Tony's and Janice's interactions are funny. After Janice does Tony a favor by killing Richie, he sends her off packing saying, "All in all I'd say it was a good visit"...haha. Then when she barks at Tony her love life is none of his business he fires back, "Your last boyfriend I had to take out of the kitchen in hefty bags". While Janice is not a major character her prescence does add a different side to Tony. Ha ha ha!! Yea Beth, I remember that. It wes hilarious!  TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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