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Re: extra scenes - G1
[Re: Don Cardi]
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05/01/07 05:20 PM
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Re: extra scenes - G1
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/02/07 09:48 AM
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Turnbull may be the best person to answer this. But when I was first getting into the Godfather in 2001/2002, I watched the Saga/chronological version on AMC. I may be wrong, but I swear that the dialogue where Woltz says the "daigo, guinea, wop" line was in a different scene than the theatrical version. Maybe it wasn't the Saga, but it was something because my wife and I both remarked that we had not remembered that dialogue in any scene beside the production studio. I want to say the dialogue took place at the dinner Woltz & Hagen had.
Am I just remembering incorrectly? I have not viewed the Saga in at least 4 years, so I have never been able to rewatch for an answer to my question.
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Re: extra scenes - G1
[Re: goombah]
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05/02/07 10:13 AM
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Turnbull
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Goombah, your confusion may be prompted by the inclusion of the deleted scene in the "Saga," and the use of different slurs in different scenes: In the theatrical version, Hagen enters the Paramount lot and the set, a bell rings, and then he's next to Woltz, who says, "OK, start talkin'." After Tom makes his pitch, Woltz makes his threats, including, "...I don't care how many dago guinea wop greaseballs come out of the woodwork..."
In the Saga version, that scene is preceded by a few seconds of Woltz giving Janie the pony. "Unaccustomed as I am to public...drinking.." he starts, then says how much they all love Janie. Then he turns to Tom and says, "OK, start talkin'." But the "dago" etc. phrase is still there, not elsewhere.
Another possible source of confusion: During the dinner, Woltz's parting shot at Hagen is, "You tell that goombah that if he tries any rough stuff, I ain't no bandleader...yeah, I heard that story." Nasty slur, but not the same slurs heard earlier.
Last edited by Turnbull; 05/02/07 10:15 AM.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: extra scenes - G1
[Re: Don Cardi]
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05/02/07 04:15 PM
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Write about what you know, so the saying goes. I s'pose we couldn't blame Puzo for doing that, but he could have made the Hollywood plots a bit more interesting.
I have the five DVD boxset and on the Bonus Material DVD, the deleted scenes from the Saga are there (including the tussle between Janey and her mom). I especially like the deleted scenes concerning Fabrizio.
"I'm sorry if your stepmother is a nympho but I don't see what this has to do with, uh... do you have any Kalhua?"
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Re: extra scenes - G1
[Re: dontomasso]
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05/03/07 03:26 PM
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Isnt there also a difference in the scenes after Hagen leaaves? I seem to recall in the Saga version that there is a specific meeting about how to deal with Woltz, and Vito specifically says not to use the information about his relationship with the girl, after which the horse head thing ensues. I think in the film they cut that part out and only talk about Solozzo in the meeting. There is a deleted scene following the Woltz dinner--a good one, too. It starts with Connie and Carlo fighting in the Don's house in the mall. Mama says, "Connie and Carlo are always fighting," Sonny gets up to "teach that brother in law of mine a lesson," and Vito pulls him down--"never interfere between a man and his wife...your place is here with Tom and me." He then asks Tom about the Woltz meeting, saying, "...is it true about the young starlet..." When Tom acknowledges it, he says, "infamia, infamia..." Then he asks if Woltz has balls. "Fuggeddabout it," says Tom. That's a long way of saying that the Janie thing does come up in that scene, but there's no specific mention of not using it against Woltz.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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