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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Tony Love]
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06/17/07 01:19 PM
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I read it in the Peoria Journal Star, you know, the newspaper that had all the coverage of that Convention where you met Gandolfini. DC, you're only fooling yourself. But what really surprises me is you didn't catch this the first thousand times you watched the GF: Surprised? Don't you remember what pop taught us? I do. That's why I never let anyone outside the family know what I'm thinking. If you turn to page 3, you'll find the Sopranos Movie story.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: olivant]
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06/18/07 12:24 PM
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I could be real cynical and say Chase left an open ending in case his career in a year's time is looking grim and he can always revisit it.
If he did, if he were to make a film of this, and have Tony in it (which would be essential), then it defeats the entire purpose of that ambiguous ending, the whole tone of that final scene. Unless the purpose of that scene was commercial and not aesthetic.
For the record, The Sopranos shouldn't be brought to a cinema. The structuring of films rarely sits well with TV-to-film spinoffs. And I think it would be somehow demeaning to television as a medium, as if the whole show was a platform, a basis, to work our way up to a film. Notice how many TV shows are made into films, but how many films are made into TV shows? Exactly: not many. That's not because Film is in anyway "better" than TV, but I think a lot of people treat it so. Like, if there's a film made of it, it is somehow more immortal.
TV and Film sometimes overlap, but they are fundamentally different media, and I think we should sustain some sort of integrity for the uniqueness of both.
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra]
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06/18/07 12:29 PM
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I could be real cynical and say Chase left an open ending in case his career in a year's time is looking grim and he can always revisit it.
If he did, if he were to make a film of this, and have Tony in it (which would be essential), then it defeats the entire purpose of that ambiguous ending, the whole tone of that final scene. Unless the purpose of that scene was commercial and not aesthetic.
For the record, The Sopranos shouldn't be brought to a cinema. The structuring of films rarely sits well with TV-to-film spinoffs. And I think it would be somehow demeaning to television as a medium, as if the whole show was a platform, a basis, to work our way up to a film. Notice how many TV shows are made into films, but how many films are made into TV shows? Exactly: not many.
TV and Film sometimes overlap, but they are fundamentally different media, and I think we should sustain some sort of integrity for the uniqueness of both. Capo, I couldn't agree with you more...on everything that you've said in your post! It's right on. The ONLY thing that maybe Chase would be able to get away with, and it's a big maybe, is a spinoff series showing young Uncle Junior and young Johnny Soprano in their early days. This way they wouldn't have to bring back any of the original actors, and could portray them a younger people while using new actors. People just might accept a spinoff of that kind.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Don Cardi]
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06/18/07 12:34 PM
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They might, and I might tune in with curiosity too, but it would be a commercial expansion, for me, not an artistic one; I can't see how Chase could give any further insight into this world of mobsters, family life, oedipal complexes, estranged parentage, homosexuality, race and culture divides, class divides, murder, guilt and redemption with anything new, anything we've not already seen or we don't already know. It'd be like watching the Young Vito scenes from The Godfather Part II without the context of the Michael scenes. An exercise in how to milk success.
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra]
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06/18/07 04:46 PM
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Notice how many TV shows are made into films, but how many films are made into TV shows? Exactly: not many. Out of curiosity, I'm going to try to name some. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, MASH, Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, Star Wars, Stargate, Highlander, Planet of the Apes, and Le Femme Nikita all spring to mind. I don't think it's that uncommon for films to move to the small screen, though I agree it's definitely a case of 'downgrading'!
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Sopranorleone]
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06/19/07 10:23 AM
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It would be able to delve deep into the pre-RICO days. Sort of expands the possibilities. So basically, a more explicit look at violence and illegal rackets, not so much the family life of Johnny Boy Soprano. But even then, even with that family life present, we already know Livia gave him a hard time, I'm sure they had their moments of affection, too. What makes that narrative thread so great is the fact that we always see it from a distance; even the flashback scenes are filtered through the eyes of Tony. They're fascinating, they're great, they're even deep, so long as they're related to Tony - Tony's anxieties, panic attacks, disturbed view of his sister, his uncle, his father, especially his mother (he's seeing Melfi in the first place because of his mother, and so without Livia's character the show never begins). Take Tony out of the question, which you'd be doing in a prequel, and what you've got is an exercise in pointlessness, a mere cash-in, something, I'd even go so far as to say, completely unrelated to the original series... which might in a way be a good thing, but let's face it, if the characters weren't called Sopranos, we'd be calling it a phony rip-off. It's like a poor, scraped-up second serving for those in the diner still hungry - but this second serving tastes half as nice, because this time they left out the meat. All you're getting is vegetables and few roast potatoes here and there.
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Re: Sopranos Movie
[Re: Raymondo Corleone]
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06/19/07 10:25 AM
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Notice how many TV shows are made into films, but how many films are made into TV shows? Exactly: not many. Out of curiosity, I'm going to try to name some. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, MASH, Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, Star Wars, Stargate, Highlander, Planet of the Apes, and Le Femme Nikita all spring to mind. I don't think it's that uncommon for films to move to the small screen, though I agree it's definitely a case of 'downgrading'! Good point, actually. Very, very good response.
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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