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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: Sopranorleone]
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06/13/07 09:18 AM
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pizzaboy
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I just dont see how Meadow would be walking into a bloodbath. Family members dont get killed. Phil's wife was spared when she easily could have bought it. Well, I agree, but don't be naive about family members. I'm not even talking about real life either. Just last week Phil's girlfriend and her father were killed. Was that friendly fire?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: Don Cardi]
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06/13/07 09:30 AM
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pizzaboy
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Family members dont get killed. Who's being nieve Kay? That's all I'm talking about. 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/13/07 10:35 AM
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Well, I agree, but don't be naive about family members. I'm not even talking about real life either. Just last week Phil's girlfriend and her father were killed. Was that friendly fire? Yes it was friendly fire - it was a botched hit. The guy was clearly derranged, mistook the girl's dad for Phil and then shot them both. That was never part of the plan. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I can't think of many instances where a non-involved family member has been deliberately targeted.
"Just When I Thought I Was Out - They Pulled Me Back In....."
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/13/07 12:35 PM
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Sopranorleone
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Family members dont get killed. Who's being nieve Kay? That's all I'm talking about. What I meant was that there are usually never a hit placed on a family member. Nodody would order the deaths of AJ, Carm, Meadow, etc. But, like GFIII, I KNOW accidently, or if they interfere, anyone's a target. What I was saying was that the gunman would shoot Tony and run most likely, preventing anyone from interfering. Would he realize how much of a death warrent it would be to just kill Tony, let alone Carm, AJ, and possible Meadow? Tony was his prime target, in short.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: Sopranorleone]
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06/13/07 12:45 PM
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Hell, just look at Billy Leotardo. The difference there being, Tony B. was shooting at night, while walking, and Phil and Billy were moving as well. In the finale, Carm, AJ, and Tony are all inside and sitting. Unless Carm or AJ (since he was going to be the next Rambo  ) had the reflexes and balls to run after the guy, then they would not get hurt.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: Sopranorleone]
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06/13/07 02:23 PM
06/13/07 02:23 PM
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Today's item description (and photo) on Woot.com is a cute spoof of the last episode.  (If you're unfamiliar w/ Woot, they typically sell just 1 item per day until it sells out, and each description is quite clever) HP Photosmart 3210 All in One Printer, Copier and Scanner Printed In America
Tommy Baritoni watched the photo print roll out of the HP Photosmart 3210 All in One Printer. Ah, that’s the stuff, he thought, admiring the full-color portrait of his favorite band in all their early-’80s glory, headbands, keytars, and all. They stopped making bands like Journey anymore, but I still believe. Tommy checked his watch and wondered where Marcela, Summer, and T.J. were. They were supposed to meet him here fifteen minutes ago.
Around him, the other customers of the Bloomfield Copy & Print Shop went about their business. They paid only casual attention to Tommy, unaware that here was the man who ran the largest hubcap-fencing ring in East Jersey. Nice little all-in-one printer, scanner, and copier they got here, Tommy mused. Prints without a PC thanks to the memory card reader and PictBridge USB port. Fast, too – 32 ppm black and 31 ppm color. I oughtta get one for Club Fuggetaboutit, have the girls put ‘em on the glass and sell the printouts. He filed the enterprising idea away until next week.
Just then, a guy in a suit stepped through the copy shop door and seemed to look right at Tommy – or did he? For a terrifying second, Tommy wondered if the guy was with the Dotatello family, or maybe was working for those Syrians that Tommy had ratted out to the FBI. As the suit moved up to the counter to pick up a printing order, Tommy tried to shrug off the anxiety that haunted him. No matter how forcefully he commanded his mind to think pleasurably about the HP Photosmart 3210 All in One Printer, he couldn’t shake this cloud of impending doom. He found no comfort in its built-in slide/negative adapter, dust and scratch removal, and advanced copying features. For some reason he couldn’t put his finger on, it felt like everything was about to come to a sudden, inexplicable, unsatisfying end.
Tommy eased a bit as Marcela and T.J. came through the door, the electronic sensor in the door bleeping as they did. Through the plate glass window, he saw Summer by the bicycle rack outside, struggling with the padlock on her bike. “Hey, Dad, want some Funyons?,” T.J. asked, extending the yellow cellophane bag. Tommy plucked out a Funyon, watching Summer finally clasp the padlock shut and walk toward the copy shop door. He pecked Marcela on the cheek and wiped away the stray Funyon crumbs his lips left there. The electronic door sensor bleeped again. Tommy looked up and
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL
[Re: Don Cardi]
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06/13/07 02:37 PM
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The best part of the show is when Paulie unbuttons his pants at the table................... the cat was Addriana............. No Smitty, read my previous post about the cat. I don't think that it was Adrianna. Here : Someone made a point in regards to the cat in an earlier post ( can't recall who it was).
So I went back and re-watched the episode. The more I think about it the more I am convinced that the cat was symbollically supposed to be Christopher re-incarnated. He stares at Christopher's picture, and one can easily make an argument that it could be Adrianna because of this. However he could be staring at himself, remembering when. But what really makes me lean towards it being Chris is the fact that the Cat totally annoyed Paulie. Just like Chris used to. The Cat got under Paulie's skin. Just like Chris used to. Tony loved the Cat. Just as he loved Chris. And when Paulie is sitting all alone outside of Satriale's, there's the Cat sitting right there also. Just like Chris and Paulie used to do.
I'm convinced that the Cat was symbolic of Christopher. I thought that for a moment watching the show but I never thought it rhough like you did, it makes even more sense that way.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA
[Re: olivant]
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06/13/07 07:47 PM
06/13/07 07:47 PM
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Some observations:
Carmela cuts off the conversation when Hunter tells her she's in med school Imagine Carm's horror to learn that Hunter, who was a major screwup, is now doing what she wanted Meadow to do. I would've thought that Carm would, at least, be happy for Hunter, bot NOOOOOO. Harris' wife: what was she pissed off about when she got dressed and he was in bed? Was that Harris' wife or was it a female FBI agent with whom he was having an affair? I think she was an agent and was unhappy that Harris was helping Tony out (she overheard part of the phone conversation). Little Italy reduced to a few shops and restaurants. Madonne!
Thats the sad truth of it... Little Italy, for all intents and purposes, no longer exists. Why did NY want to stop the war?
They're all businessmen... the war had to be costing them money and they realized that nothing was really to be gained from wiping out the Sopranos; they realized it was a personal vendetta of Phil's that started the war in the first place.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA
[Re: olivant]
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06/13/07 10:46 PM
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Thanks SC. I'mm watching A&E rerun Dang I always forget it comes on Wednesday nights. I'll have to watch it at 1am now.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA
[Re: SC]
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06/14/07 03:34 AM
06/14/07 03:34 AM
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it was a personal vendetta of Phil's that started the war in the first place. Ya but Tony ran a MICKEY MOUSE crew and something like this would have happened eventually. If not at the hands of Phil then from someone else's. Phil wasn't the first to want Tony dead. Most of the Jersey crew (Ralphie, Ritchie,Patsy, Benny, etc) wanted him dead at some point too. With Phil, Tony entered a battle he couldn't win. He couldn't beat New York, but my guess is that New York had no problem watching the "old-skool" guys like Tony and Phil whack each other out. They're both old dinosaurs anyhow. Tony was NOT cut out to a mob-boss. Time and time again he worried more about his wife and kids than he did his mob family and that is NOT the oath that he took!!! Nothing is supposed to outrank the family. Plus, he tells Melfi that A.J could never cut it in the mob... A.J, who has panic attacks just like dear ol dad. NEITHER were fit for that life. Hell, Tony was forced into it by his father. And I still think the fact that Paulie had been flirting with NY for the past 3 or so seasons had something to do with this all. I don't think Phil would have been as confident in invading Jersey if Paulie had not been practically shining NY's shoes for the past 3 seasons. Paulie might not have been directly involved in the treachery, but I think his "discussions" with John/Phil, etc, put Tony in extreme danger. But again, I think Tony got it b/c he wasn't a real mob boss. Hell, he wasn't even MICKEY MOUSE, he was more like DONALD DUCK's crazy, quack-doctor Uncle from Austria... Hey, DA. Did you hear that? I said that Tony wasn't even Mickey Mouse but he was instead Donald Duck's quack-doctor Uncle. You know, cuz he went to see a quack every week!
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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06/14/07 09:13 AM
06/14/07 09:13 AM
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Don Cardi
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No question that he was having an affair with her and was getting the info on New York as a result of that affair. [quote} She's in denial as recent as her last dinner shown with Tony. "I mean, the way Italians are treated..." Carmela cuts off the conversation when Hunter tells her she's in med school. Imagine Carm's horror to learn that Hunter, who was a major screwup, is now doing what she wanted Meadow to do. I would've thought that Carm would, at least, be happy for Hunter, bot NOOOOOO. [/quote] Just more examples of how when push comes to shove, they are really not that different from each other. They are all meant for each other because deep down they are all the same in many ways. They really are a FAMILY. Look how fast AJ suddenly came out of depression when his father got him a job, promised him that he would consider opening a nightclub for him, and bought him a new car. Sounds like AJ picked up some of his mother's habits if you ask me. 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA
[Re: CHRISTOPHER]
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06/14/07 11:22 AM
06/14/07 11:22 AM
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I thought the FBI was listening in on tony in the end, so i think that i will stick with a movie coming up. Are you ok, Christopher? Are there little people inhabiting the inside of your head?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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