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A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/01/05 04:01 PM
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After recently reading a book called "The Vatican Exposed" i have learnt that a lot of things portrayed in The Godfather 3 are actually true facts. Firstly it is almost certain that the church had John Paul 1st murdered due to his views on reform Secondly it is true that A Vatican Banker was murdered and hang underneath a bridge much like Reizig at The end of part 3 It is also true that the company known as Imobiliare was indeed controlled by a Mafia Banker called Michele Sindonna, this just goes to show that not only is The Godfather 3 a great stand alone film, it is actually an accurate representation of The Corruption in The Catholic Chruch at that point in history
Godfather 3 is The Best of The Series Bow to The Power of The Cosa Nostra
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/02/05 02:52 AM
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well facts are facts, and while the pope may have died of natural causes that does not mean the other points are not valid...you going to argue with the fact that a banker did die? dude i saw it on american justice.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/02/05 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by mr. soprano: well facts are facts, and while the pope may have died of natural causes that does not mean the other points are not valid...you going to argue with the fact that a banker did die? dude i saw it on american justice. exactly my point, facts are facts! So you just cannot state that it is "almost" certain the Church got Pope John Paul I murdered, because if you can't prove it you'd better avoid validating such things that are offensive for those of us who believe in the integrity of Roman Catholic Church. Of course the Church made horrible things in past times. Pope John Paul II begged forgiveness for those crimes performed in past centuries. But - thanks God - Middle Age is past, to elect a Pope you need a strong majority so if they did not want Cardinal Luciani to become Pope, the Conclave could have chosen another one, no need to kill anyone. I believe that the spiritual power of the Church is so great that it may bother other sorts of powers and in someone's mind it must be stained at any cost. The worst is I see there are people willing to believe this rubbish.
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/07/05 10:37 AM
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as someone who is neither catholic nor hates catholics, i really don't think this topic has a lot to do with the godfather anymore. perhaps it would be most appropriate to move it to the general discussion forum.
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/10/05 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by fathersson: Spoken, just like the a nun with a ruler in her hand. Its a hard habit to break.
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/10/05 07:47 PM
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Jimmy Buffer
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: Well I'm a Catholic and I think the thread has PLENTY to do with The Godfather since the opening post compares certain events in a book with corresponding fictional events in GFIII.
The fact that the validity of the book can be argued and that Pope John Paul I was NOT murdered is a side issue.
If you would prefer to get back on track instead of simply whining that this should now be in General Discussion, then it's quite possible to veer the thread back to discussion of the film and how it can be compared to the book.
That is, if you have anything constructive to add.
Best, Apple well the fact that i thought someone stating the catholic church is a corrupt institution can also be argued. your reply is no different than mine. if i was whining by stating my opinion about the discussion, then you are also whining by stating your opinion about my reply. if you would prefer to get back on track instead of simply whining that my opinion is wrong, then it's quite possible to veer the thread back to discussion of the film and how it can be compared to the book. that is, if you have anything constructive to add. best, jimmy
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/13/05 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer: [QUOTE]...if i was whining by stating my opinion about the discussion, then you are also whining by stating your opinion about my reply. if you would prefer to get back on track instead of simply whining that my opinion is wrong, then it's quite possible to veer the thread back to discussion of the film and how it can be compared to the book. that is, if you have anything constructive to add.
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jimmy Nice try, Jimmy...but actually my reply is very different from yours. You decided upon your own that this thread no longer had anyting to do with The Godfather and suggested it be moved. Catholic bashing or not (which is still a matter of opinion), I stated that it had sufficient link to GF to remain in this forum. Since it's still here...I guess those who move threads did not agree with you. But by 'cleverly' attempting to use my own words as part of your reply...you did confirm that you still have nothing constructive to add to the thread so I do appreciate your post on that point alone. On with the discussion. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/15/05 01:42 PM
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nice try, apple...but actually your reply is quite the same as mine. You decided upon your own that i was whining when i offered my opinion, i guess those who post here did not agree with you, since you are the only one to complain.
But by 'cleverly' attempting to use your words as part of your reply...i did confirm that i really haven't added anything constructive. so i will convey my ideas on the thread in a question rather than a statement, that way i can't be accused of whining. is it safe to assume that the majority of italians are racist since joey zaza is the only one who will take blacks into his family? that was implied in gf 3, so as someone who has never met an italian before, is that what i'm supposed to think, just because it occurred in a fictional movie?
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Re: A Lot of Elements in The Godfather 3 True
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05/16/05 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by dontomasso: Jimmy......CHILL!!!! sorry don. didn't mean to offend anyone with my analogy. like i said, i've never met any italians, so i don't mean to imply i think they are racist. i just thought it was an accurate comparision of how things in a movie can't be taken too seriously. i hope i'm not whining by posting this. i'm truly sorry if i am.
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