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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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02/07/08 03:22 PM
02/07/08 03:22 PM
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He looks chummier with Bill than Hillary in this photo. I seen that too.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/07/08 03:49 PM
02/07/08 03:49 PM
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Mignon
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Don't worry she'll raise more. She'll just have the NY Govenor to raise the NY taxes.
Yes Mig, your comment also has me wondering what the GOVERNOR of New York raising taxes has to do with her campaign?  You know something about her and GOVERNOR SPITZER that we don't? I was just kidding I guess I forgot to add the smiley. MY BAD!!!!
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: SC]
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02/08/08 01:01 PM
02/08/08 01:01 PM
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Don Alessandrio
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Well everyone I know, Dems and Reps, all have a great hatred for Clinton. the only people I think like her are bra burning, butch haircut, unshaven feminist. 
Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/08/08 06:03 PM
02/08/08 06:03 PM
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Can one of you conservatives out there explain to me why many on the right hate McCain so much?
Because conservatives are just a hateful bunch? It kills them that McCain is the one Republican that most Democrats can live with. I just don't understand what McCain did that so angers Republicans and makes him more likeable to liberals. Yes, he has a habit of using non-conservative rhetoric to promote his "independent maverick" image, but when you compare deeds to rhetoric, he's quite conservative and on some issues more conservative than many neocons.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Saladbar]
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02/08/08 06:49 PM
02/08/08 06:49 PM
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Can one of you conservatives out there explain to me why many on the right hate McCain so much?
Because conservatives are just a hateful bunch? It kills them that McCain is the one Republican that most Democrats can live with. I just don't understand what McCain did that so angers Republicans and makes him more likeable to liberals. Yes, he has a habit of using non-conservative rhetoric to promote his "independent maverick" image, but when you compare deeds to rhetoric, he's quite conservative and on some issues more conservative than many neocons. That's it. He doesn't use the pejorative rhetoric that someone like Coultergeist uses. Besides, she's pissed at him because his Adam's Apple is bigger than hers.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: olivant]
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02/09/08 11:24 AM
02/09/08 11:24 AM
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As probably one of only a few political geeks here these days, has anyone else been following this "delegate" issue with the Democratic caucus'/primaries?  If so, what do you think? If I understand correctly, having an early primary made the Dem nominess forfeit their delegates in Michigan and Florida. The Dem candidates agreed beforehand they couldn't campaign in Fla/Mich and that the delegates would NOT be counted, in essence neither would gain anything from the votes in those states. I know that neither Obama and Edwards didn't even have their names on the Michigan ballot. Now, with this race getting tighter and tighter, rumor has it that whoever would have the most to gain, delegate-wise, from both super delegates and the MI/Fla delegates may request that theses two states be counted. Anyone who knows anything, can they do that?????  It seems, because all were aware of it beforehand, that getting down to the wire, they can suddenly say "make it count", doesn't seem fair at all. TIS Let me add this too. I'm hearing all these commentators saying it would be awful if it came down to the super delegates being the deciding factor on the Dem. side. Granted, it would be, however even Howard Dean thinks they should "work something out" meaning/implying one of the two should step down before it gets to that point. I say WTF????  The party made the rules. They can come up with the right solution. I can't believe either candidate would say "oh, ok, I'll be the big person, I'll step down." Why should they if it's that close? Ok, that's my political rant for now.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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02/09/08 02:27 PM
02/09/08 02:27 PM
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pizzaboy
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TIS, my brother and I were just discussing the super delegates (do they have tights and capes??). He feels that if they do end up deciding the race, that will alienate the supporters of the candidate who didn't get the nomination and could spoil the entire race for the Dems. I think your brother is absolutely right, SB. I know some Obama supporters who have come to loathe Hillary as much as the conservatives do. And I'm sure it's vice-versa.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/09/08 04:53 PM
02/09/08 04:53 PM
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Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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02/11/08 06:16 AM
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If its Hillary/McCain for November....McCain will win by a squeaker in yet another bitter-election.
If its Obama/McCain....Obama will win. I am that sure. Interesting statement. Why do you feel Obama would do better than Hillary?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: SC]
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02/11/08 11:44 AM
02/11/08 11:44 AM
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pizzaboy
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If its Hillary/McCain for November....McCain will win by a squeaker in yet another bitter-election.
If its Obama/McCain....Obama will win. I am that sure. Interesting statement. Why do you feel Obama would do better than Hillary? That's pretty much what TIME magazine stated this week. McCain leads Hillary by 4 points head-to-head. Conversely, Obama leads McCain by 7 points hed-to-head. Obama's victory margins were huge this weekend. I think the momentum and the fact that he now has more money will carry him to the nomination.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: SC]
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02/11/08 12:34 PM
02/11/08 12:34 PM
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Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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If its Hillary/McCain for November....McCain will win by a squeaker in yet another bitter-election.
If its Obama/McCain....Obama will win. I am that sure. Interesting statement. Why do you feel Obama would do better than Hillary? (1) Massive amounts of Americans fucking HATE Hillary...and I don't just mean the GOP. A reason why Obama has so much heat within the Democratic Party is because, with Edwards out, he's the sole anti-Clinton...or anti-party establishment...There are Democrats who want someone besides Hillary, and Obama Your Mama just might be the man. (2) if Hillary is the nominee, and she runs that schtick of wanting to "clean up" the Bush White House....not many Americans will buy it, since Dubya got into the Oval Office partly because he campaigned in wanting to "clean up" the scandal-ridden Clinton White House. Hillary/McCain will be a shitty election because its two uninspiring candidates that's like choosing between a gun shot and a stabbing wound. It'll be a very close election, with liberals forced to back a woman who's practically become a Republican, and conservatives biting the bullet and back McCain if simply to stop Hillary. In other words, 2000 and 2004 again...its like that SOUTH PARK episode, who to vote between Douchebag and Turd Sandwich? McCain will win, by a squeaker. (3) BUT if its Obama/McCain...there is a reason why the GOP really fucking fear the black dude. With more cash, and more general mojo behind his Fascist-esque Army, Obama can cast himself as the young "outsider" rebel fighting against the "Old Man of Washington" in McCain(who's what, 72?) and really...here is a dirty little secret: Conservatives don't get as pissed off or riled up at Obama as they are with Hillary. Yeah, they may hate his liberal politics, but its not like they personally despise him, like the GOP do with the Clinton Clique. (4) Remember the 1992 Election? Bill Clinton the young Baby-Boomer "inexperienced" draft dodger beat out the old "experienced" WW2 veteran George H.W. Bush...and Obama/McCain may very well be a repeat of this. (5) If its Hillary/McCain, think 1976. Two candidates that don't inspire the nation in Ford/Carter* (6) The GOP is taking notes of how Hillary Clinton's campaign has tried to paint Obama as "inexperienced" and a "black candidate" and yet all those attacks have fucking backfired...with the Clintons actually alienating a good number of their long-time black supporters. Obama's fuckin Superman at this rate, and Hillary's argument that Obama won't stand up to the GOP Smear Machine....seems more and more quaint. Again, thats my thoughts. *=People forget that African-Americans were fucking lukewarm with Carter, former Governor of Georgia that was buds with former Segregationist chronies. Some argue that if Ford had kept Rockefeller (liberal Republican that blacks at least tolerated) as VP, Ford could have won that election by a squeaker.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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02/11/08 12:37 PM
02/11/08 12:37 PM
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Obama certainly has a lot of momentum. He'll probably carry the three races tomorrow.
What impresses me most about his candidacy is that for a relative newcomer, he's winning races in every region of the nation. The Clinton campaign can't believe that this cockroach won't just die, but grow and grow... From them getting fucking blanked on Saturday to losing Maine yesterday, and polls predicting the Potamic region to become fellow Obamaniacs* tomorrow, and Hawaii(Obama's home turf) another safe-pin.... There is no coincidence that Hillary's campaign manager got fired...err, "resigned".... A question is, can Hillary afford to lose all the Potamic states after the Weekend Massacre for them? *=Hulk Hogan endorsed Obama. Whatcha gonna do brother, when Obamania runs wild on ya?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: dontomasso]
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02/11/08 12:42 PM
02/11/08 12:42 PM
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pizzaboy
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Anyone see Hillary on 60 Minutes last night? She is panicking. I don't want to be mean, but she has aged ten years in the last 2 months. She looks tired, old and very worried.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/11/08 12:45 PM
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Anyone see Hillary on 60 Minutes last night? She is panicking. I don't want to be mean, but she has aged ten years in the last 2 months. She looks tired, old and very worried. She and her people 6 months ago seriously believed the Nomination was fuck-guaran-teed after New Hampshire, but now...anytime they tried to do something, Obama counter-acts. Anytime that Hillary's people try to pimp good news, Obama outdoes them.* *=Take Saturday. Hillary's people made a big deal of how 100,000 different people donated to her campaign. Obama's campaign shot back with a staggering 350,000.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/11/08 01:15 PM
02/11/08 01:15 PM
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dontomasso
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I think they overreacted to the "pimp" remark on MSNBC. Hey, I'm all for protecting your own, especially family, but the Democratic Party is built around freedom of the press. You can't have it both ways. Complete overreaction. Chelsea is an adult now, not th kid who got the privacy she deserved When Bill was in the White House. Hillary is secretive, and cannot take criticism, and with her everythig has to be a fight. I have been on Bush's case for this kind of behavior for 8 years, and I see little difference between her and him.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/11/08 01:31 PM
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Mignon
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Anyone see Hillary on 60 Minutes last night? She is panicking. I don't want to be mean, but she has aged ten years in the last 2 months. She looks tired, old and very worried. Let's have a pity party 1-2-3 Aww.
Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12
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