Well, they were asked the question at their last debate, and the response from the audience was overwhelming.

I loved Obama's response: There's a big difference between Obama/Clinton and Clinton/Obama.

But they both seemed open to the idea.

I think Clinton would strongly consider Obama as a VP. If she wins the nomination, this would be a tough ticket to beat as Democrats will hit the polls in record numbers.

When Obama said that Hillary would be on a short list of VP running mates for him, I think he was honest. I would speculate that he may have some concerns about a high profile figure, married to a two term former president when he himself is the relative newcomer. Still, it would likely be a formidable ticket.

Just my opinion of course, but I think Obama might agree to be Hillary's VP, but I have a feeling Hillary wouldn't want to be VP to Obama. I just see her as a "all or nothing", either she's President or not.


TIS

Yeah, that makes sense, TIS. It would be awful hard, after 8 years in the White House, to go back there as second fiddle.

Since many feel that VP is a springboard to the Presidency, I'm not so sure if Hillary would object.

Either way, it would certainly unite the party.

She'd be 69 after two Obama terms, which is almost as old as McCain is now.

So, she's almost 60? Well, then I think she looks pretty good for her age.

She turned 60 last October.

Or do you want Bill in the White House bringing in more interns?

Give me a break. Clinton did more good while diddling interns than Bush could have ever hoped to do. Bush has accelerated the process of putting the country in the sorry shape that its in, from our terrible economy to Bush's single-handedly has been the biggest world-wide anti-U.S. terrorist recruiter with his ridiculous foreign policy decisions.

I agree with TIS. Hillary's ego could not handle being vice president at this point in her life.

That would explain Mitt dropping out early, but man, I hope it isn't true.

Another thing...Of course if Clinton wins we know Bill will be "helping." However, if Obama gets elected, I think he should have Bill be an Ambassador to foreign nations or the like. He was well liked, and would be a great candidate to try to make amends/clena-up, and actually work with the foreign relations mess we are left with no?


TIS

Gee wiz I was just trying to have some fun.

TIS, you have a good point. I think that President Clinton still can be very useful to us. He did a great job heading up the tsunami assistance. Maybe President Bush should have put him in charge of helping the Katrina victims. You know, the ones that were just evicted from their FEMA trailers because they were slowly being POISONED.

Sorry, I digress.

I've been saying that for some time....thats why I'm against her, and its not because I was a Republican....I was a Republican.

I am absolutely certain for sure that if Obama gets the nomination, he would beat McCain. But if its Hillary....it'll be another ridiculous close, partisan as bitter hell election, and a shitty choice in general.

Both Mitt and Huckabee are SHITTY picks for GOP running-mate, they just are...so I doubt it.

A name I kept hearing was Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who may or may not be gay(not that I care...but Rush Limbaugh will.)

Hillary's Wisconsin Ad slamming Obama to do another debate was just fucking embarrasing.

How many debates had these two been involved in anyway? 10? 30?

Besides, a candidate begging openly for a debate is a sign of pure electoral weakness.

You oldtimers remember McGovern in 1972, who dogged Nixon about a debate. Nixon was always so high up in the polls, he told McGovern to eat it.

Well, he did in November.

The McCain for 2000 was a guy I campaigned for, because unlike Bush, he didn't suck off Falwell or the evangelical powerbase. McCain of that time was my sort of Republican, a conservative at heart, but had broad goals (limit Congressional corruption, global warming, etc.) of which he was able to create Senatorial coalitions with Democrats....hell, even with a liberal like Feingold!

Hell, I even liked the last vistage of old McCain in that anti-torture bill that McCain mustered up and pulled a QB sneak to get passed.

But otherwise, the poor bastard has given the conservatives and GOP powerbase such a massive blowjob this side of DEEP THROAT, that he's practically now associated with the Bush Squad, that Obama can easily paint him as Bush The Sequel.

And if McCain backs toward the center, the bullshit-laden "conservatives" will abandon him, and the guy is screwed.

McCain at his best is as a reasonable moderate Republican who doesn't pimp Jesus or hump a Bible every chance he gets. Not as a blind Romney douchebag ideologue.

I've just been so alienated by the GOP because of the religion, and because they got away from that 1994 Contract with America, or at least the parts I liked of it.

You know, balanced budget, Congressional Term Limits, cutting down on welfare, you know....the rhetoric they preached but never practiced. Instead, that GOP wave went on a moral crusade against Clinton, which fucking severly backfired this side of the Edsel.

Hillary would rather set herself on fire than be Obama's running mate.

Clinton is only better by default..and that's not saying much.

Democrats hate when I say this, but Clinton had the smarts, the great political skill and instincts...he could have been a great President, but instead he let petty excuses and grudges get the best of him, and do outright stupid bullshit(Lewinsky).

Its ironic that he was the President who invited Nixon back to the Oval Office.

Ronnie, I swear to God (really, not like the Evangelicals), I don't know where you make me laugh more----your movie reviews or your political posts.

Am I understanding correctly that Romney, who recently endorsed McCain, gave McCain his delegates???? Can he do that? If so, I assume Edwards can give his to whomever he endorses???? Anyone know?


TIS

I believe so....but while his delegates would be a nice supplemental, whats more important is the political impact of this sponsorship.

Romney has no control over his delegates. All he can do is suggest to his delegates that they vote for McCain.

I got a recorded phone message from Hillary this morning telling me what all she is going to do for the state of Ohio and the country if she's elected.

Wow, Hillary losing last night, I expected...

But by 17 points?

Wow, w/ that and Hawaii, that is TEN loses in a row.

I so wanted to say this to the Clinton Clique for so many years...

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSEEEEEEEER!

Hillary is definitely in DEEP DOO-DOO. I think Obama is going to win the nomination. Well I guess people are more willing to vote for the first Black president than for the first female president?
I also think that people are just sick of the Clintons and Bill should have stayed out of it.

Yahoo News - Clinton looks to Ohio to revive a candidacy bruised by 10 straight Obama victories.

She's depending on you Miggy!

I really don't think that's the case. I'm a white American male and I'd vote for A woman, just not THAT woman.

Speaking of which, he actually tied her with white women over 50, which was considered one of her strengths, and he beat her in EVERY other demographic.

CNN, a Hillary loving network if there ever was one, is actually saying that even if she wins Texas AND Ohio, it's probably too little too late.

My gut tells me Obama will pull off Texas and Ohio will at least be close. By the time this thing gets to Pennsylvania, it might just be all over.

The only question remaining is when she'll have the good sense to get out, for the good of her party and all.

The Delegate Math:

After last night's contests, here's where things stand: The NBC News Hard Count is Obama 1169, Clinton 1018. There are 53 delegates unallocated, which is estimated to be a 27-26 split.

The superdelegate count: Clinton 257, Obama 185. That's a grand total of Obama 1355, Clinton 1276.

Counting only the superdelegates he has now, plus his pledged delegates, Obama needs 65% of remaining pledged delegates to hit the magic number of 2025. Reaching that is unrealistic, but when you add in the 353 unaffiliated superdelegates (76 of which are still unknown and won't be appointed until April, May and June), his magic percentage is down to less than 48%.

On the flip side, Clinton needs to win 58% of all remaining pledged delegates just to get the pledged delegate lead back. Forget 2025. And if you assume Obama wins Vermont, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oregon, Montana and South Dakota (he leads in all of those states), then the magic number for Clinton rises to 65%, JUST TO GET THE PLEDGED DELEGATE LEAD BACK.

Ain't happening.

Put a fork in her, she's done.

If Hillary Clinton wins the election and is the re-elected in 2012 and serves her full term, then we will have had a 28 year stretch where the presidents were either a Bush or a Clinton.

This is one of the reasons why Obama is and should be shouting about change.

Also, barring something unusual, the next president will be the first to win the election as a sitting member of the US Senate since John Kennedy.

This may also be the first election where both the Democratic and Republican nominees are current US senators. I need a little help from someone to confirm or refute this as I can't be sure. olivant?