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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: goombah]
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04/10/08 11:40 AM
04/10/08 11:40 AM
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pizzaboy
The Fuckin Doctor
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Pizzaboy: As Kramer said to the car salesman, "It's good to have you back, Stan." Thanks Goombah, you too, Klyd. You guys should be proud of me, I won the condo election down there! I'm the new condo board President of Del Boca Vista---Phase II. The Boca Breeze tried to kill me about my alleged New York mob connections, but I won a close one. Pinko, commie rag.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
#483360
04/10/08 01:17 PM
04/10/08 01:17 PM
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Posts: 8,536 West Chester, PA
Patrick
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Sorry if I offended anyone with my post. I just wanted to point out how close the tax cuts and cost of the war have been, I wasn't poking a shot at anyone. And I agree with most of you who are saying $100,000 isn't enough to make ends meet. Prices of everything are so high now.
"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/10/08 02:12 PM
04/10/08 02:12 PM
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olivant
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Pizzaboy: As Kramer said to the car salesman, "It's good to have you back, Stan." Thanks Goombah, you too, Klyd. You guys should be proud of me, I won the condo election down there! I'm the new condo board President of Del Boca Vista---Phase II. The Boca Breeze tried to kill me about my alleged New York mob connections, but I won a close one. Pinko, commie rag. We want our percentge.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
#483489
04/11/08 11:12 AM
04/11/08 11:12 AM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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Embarrassing moment when Sir Elton John endorsed Hillary the other night. They were both wearing the same pantsuit. Although I can see why she'd want the support of a sexually confused, ex-junkie who wasn't even born in this country. She's obviously appealing to the heartland.  Yeah, the same Elton John who then claimed American was "misogynistic" because many won't back Hillary? Besides, she's part of the same Administration that threw Gays under the bus when they promised to allow them openly into the military in 1993, only to do a reach-around with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. Let's see, Gays, Blacks...what other groups has Billary thrown at the curb as well?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: olivant]
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04/17/08 12:02 PM
04/17/08 12:02 PM
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dontomasso
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Still tough, I've enjoyed Obama's discomfort since I am a Clinton supporter. It's an object lesson for him. If he is elected President, it is better that he now learn to parse his words in light of the fact that as President his words can have world-wide effect.
Especially when he is making a corkscrew landing and running from the plane to avoid sniper fire.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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04/17/08 04:30 PM
04/17/08 04:30 PM
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pizzaboy
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Still tough, I've enjoyed Obama's discomfort since I am a Clinton supporter.
She would make a good Republican President, yeah? She's too conservative. 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
#484674
04/17/08 04:44 PM
04/17/08 04:44 PM
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Posts: 8,766 South of the Pinelands
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I watched a little of the Hillary - Barack "debate" last night, but soon became weary of the questioning, spinning, posturing, etc. Unfortunately the candidates are too concerned with tip-toeing around words so as not to say the wrong thing. It appears more and more that the media elects (or tries to) our President. What was George Snufelupagus doing there....former Clinton butt boy? I'm sure he was fair  . These media events are more about the mediators asking tough questions or peeling the onion to strike a tender spot.
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/17/08 06:53 PM
04/17/08 06:53 PM
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Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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Still tough, I've enjoyed Obama's discomfort since I am a Clinton supporter.
She would make a good Republican President, yeah? She's too conservative.  Nah, she has the mediocre decision-making skills downpat. No wonder Olivant likes her.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: goombah]
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04/17/08 07:40 PM
04/17/08 07:40 PM
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Posts: 19,066 OH, VA, KY
Mignon
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I see nothing wrong with such a plan. Those making $250,000 or more per year should be taxed more, not less. I agree with you 100% Goombah, but I can't see the house and senate voting themselves a tax increase. Maybe I'm missing something here.
Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: olivant]
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04/18/08 11:13 PM
04/18/08 11:13 PM
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Posts: 295 Cincinnati, Oh
Don Alessandrio
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I have to agree with SB. I am tired of of hearing anyone talk about raising taxes. However what is wrong with cutting spending not raising taxes to pay for debt. Smarter people than I have shown that raising taxes does not decrease the debt. If congress has more money to balance the budget, it won't because it gets caught up in all the wasteful spending the can do with the extra hard earned dollars of yours and mine. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120761416279896669.html?mod=opinion_main_commentariesI for one am tired of politicians telling me how much of my money I can keep out of fairness to others. Especially when these poliicians make millions of dollars. I don't care if I make 30K or 300K. If Congress raises the taxes on those Americans that have the capital to actually create jobs and make people earners, they will take their money else where. Mean while the middle class will be stuck paying for all the "fair" social programs by working 40-50 hours a week and handing over 30% of their income. There is only one word for this, BULLSHIT.
Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Mignon]
#484853
04/18/08 11:31 PM
04/18/08 11:31 PM
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olivant
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I see nothing wrong with such a plan. Those making $250,000 or more per year should be taxed more, not less. I agree with you 100% Goombah, but I can't see the house and senate voting themselves a tax increase. Maybe I'm missing something here. During Reagan's last years, the top rate was about 28%. By the end of Clinton's term it was back up to 39%. Only Congress can increase or decrease tax rates.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: olivant]
#484925
04/19/08 10:37 AM
04/19/08 10:37 AM
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dontomasso
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The problem is not taxation it is spending. IMHO everyone gets a tax credit on $50,000 a year a person. In other words no one making less than 50K pays anything. A family of 4 making 250K a year ays nothing.
After that threshold, the tax should be 2% for every 50K a year. No deductions, no write offs, no Sllozzo tricks. This would be capped at 10% of total income for all Americans or dependents making up to 2 million a year.
Anyone making over two million a year pays 10% of each dollar he/ she makes over that amount. A percentage of this money would be allocated toward social cecurity and medicare, and hopefully a national health plan. Some other per centage should be alllocated to pay the national debt.
Until the country is debt free, by constitutional amendment there should be no new spending programs (by new I am not including defense, repairs to infrastructure...but instead no new programs) without a 2/3 vots of both houses of Congress.
Its simple, it spares the middle and upper middle class, and anyone making more than 2 million a year can go pisss and moan about paying 10%.
Estate Tax should exempt all real estate, and there should be a 15% tax on all other assets where an estate is more than 20 million dollars.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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