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Cocktails
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02/22/08 12:34 AM
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Ok... one thing I didnt find out till today after my rave review of Del Posto. Since we were early and there was no one in the place, we decided to have a drink at the bar at the suggestion of the hostess -- sure, why not? Ok, so the drinks are $15 each... at least they are made by a real mixologist, not someone part-time at chilis pouring sweet & sour mix with whatever spirit that drink calls for (its easy: Margarita = mix + tequila; diaquari = mix + rum; cosmo = mix, cranberry + vodka)... so, sure, give us a drink... my brother chose an Italian Mojito, good choice, a great innovation on a classic cocktail... I am more the purist, I want what an italian would have ordered before dinner, a Negroni (equal parts of sweet vermouth, campari & gin). But they definitely fell short when I went to go buy those same liquors today. They didn't use premium spirits but brands that were $10 less per bottle. So why are they charging $15/cocktail? Is that what they use in Italy? If so, I understand, but when they are paying nearly half price for 2nd rate spirits, why are they charging premium prices?? A top notch restaurant is obligated to serve the very best of everything, spirits included, next time I will just get an apertivo wine by the glass!!
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Re: Cocktails
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02/22/08 01:10 AM
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No comment necessary, because you weren't at a "top-notch" restaurant (APPARENTLY!)...
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Re: Cocktails
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02/22/08 10:10 PM
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For the total tab of $400, people deserve a drink made with top shelf spirits :-p
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Re: Cocktails
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02/23/08 06:42 PM
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When you pay $15 a drink in a place like that, they're charging you for their location...for their rent. Ironic that you started this topic JR, because I signed on and was going to start one about liquor/drinks myself, and then found that you already had started one. When I was over in Italy this past summer, one evening I was sitting at the Hotel Bar in Taoramina, and the Bartender poured me a drink on the house. It was a coffee liqueur drink. It was delicious. However, when I got home I could NOT remember the name of it. Then last night, we went out to dinner at a local Italian Restaurant and we decided to have a drink at the bar before sitting down. As I'm sitting I spot a bottle behind the bar and realize it's the brand of drink that I had, but couldn't remmeber the name of, in Taormina! Patron Xo Cafe Tequila Liqueur. It's delicious. The bartender put it in a Martini Shaker / Strainer with ice, and then poured it into a tall shot glass. Delicious. Problem is that it goes down way too smooth! And I only paid $5.00 a tall shot...so I was able to have 3 to your one! I'm not a tequila drinker by any means, but this stuff is so good and you don't even know that there is tequila in it. An espresso/coffee lovers liqueur drink!
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Re: Cocktails
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02/24/08 12:02 AM
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I've seen that bottle of padron, I like Milagros tequila but will have to try that. For what its worth, cabo wabo, is not ALL that. Ironically, Batali serves it in his Babbo restaurant. Taormina is a great place, my most fave... and only about 20 mins from my cousins house. When I was last in Italy I did get a chance to visit the famed Harry's Bar, had the peach bellini... and any sambuca I ever saw even in the smallest towns of sicily was always Molinari, shame on Batali for serving Meletti! SB, just curious why you want STOCK limoncello when there are tons of authentic italian brands? its basically vodka, sugar and lemon, you can even make it yourself, the yellow just food coloring i think
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02/24/08 02:13 AM
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SB, just curious why you want STOCK limoncello when there are tons of authentic italian brands? its basically vodka, sugar and lemon, you can even make it yourself, the yellow just food coloring i think *Gets the popcorn ready*
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Re: Cocktails
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02/24/08 09:35 PM
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Oh, its definitely an italian company, that much I know, I guess my point was there were so many "artisinal" limoncellos over the mainstream brand that are so much more interesting. I guess its like Florida orange juice, you have Tropicana which is good, but then you have a lot of other options which are great, even the "homemade" varieties... I guess I am a connisiuer (though I can't spell it at this hour)... I like to explore the lesser known road of everything, except grappa... thats one thing my taste buds will never appreciate no matter how expensive/refined it has become in recent years
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Re: Cocktails
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02/25/08 10:13 PM
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SB, I am guessing other brands outsell it, so they probably don't import it, but I will make it a point to keep my eyes open for it... when were you last in italy? I'd be happy to send you my bottle of it but its probably 30 years old, and probably no longer any good (the alcohol dissolves out of it) i am only keeping it for nostalgic purposes, I actually got it from my aunt cleaning out her cabinent, its funny, one bottle still has the tax stamp still on it, but 1/3rd of the bottle is gone, again, probably because a lot of the alcohol has evaporated from it.
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Re: Cocktails
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02/26/08 12:25 AM
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Anthony Bourdain may say chocolate alone is good, and vodka alone is good, but the 2 together are not, well, that is just not true... I encourage you to try the Chocolate Martini:
1 Part Godiva Chocolate liquer 2 Parts Vodka 1 Part Spring water (the clean water "evens out the sweet/alcohol tastes) 21 hard shakes in a stainless cocktail shaker = One Delicious Chocolate Martini
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02/26/08 07:09 AM
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Thanks, JR, DC and PB for all the info. I even tried to get it at Mr. Carmel Liquor, PB, figuring that they'd have it for sure. Nope. I'll have to ask my local guy.
We were last in Italy in 2001, and I am itching to go back. The airfares, however, are just a killer. To fly to Palermo this summer, they've been averaging $1300-$1500. It's a bit depressing to start out spending $5,000 before you book a hotel or anything.
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Re: Cocktails
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02/26/08 09:57 AM
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Anthony Bourdain may say chocolate alone is good, and vodka alone is good, but the 2 together are not, well, that is just not true... I encourage you to try the Chocolate Martini:
1 Part Godiva Chocolate liquer 2 Parts Vodka 1 Part Spring water (the clean water "evens out the sweet/alcohol tastes) 21 hard shakes in a stainless cocktail shaker = One Delicious Chocolate Martini
I agree JR. If a Chocolate Martini is made right, it's delicious! To add to the recipe above, take a container of Hershey's chocolate syrup and drizzle some chocolate on the inside sides of the glass before pouring the martini. There was a restaurant near me that had a Martini bar in it. They made an outstanding Chocolate Martini. Maybe one of the best that I've ever had. It's too bad that the owner forgot to pay his taxes because they're no longer in business.
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Re: Cocktails
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02/26/08 12:33 PM
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To fly to Palermo this summer, they've been averaging $1300-$1500. It's a bit depressing to start out spending $5,000 before you book a hotel or anything.
I know what you mean, Babe. My pop wants to go for six weeks because we didn't get to go this past Christmas, due to the fact that my sister-in-law is pregnant. Not to sound like an elitist jerk, but it's nice knowing we have our own property in Italy, because we're that much ahead of the game when we travel there.
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Re: Cocktails
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02/26/08 12:47 PM
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When we go, I usually stay with family. However, we like to combine it with SOME sightseeing, and then end the trip in Sicily.
Last time, we did Rome. I would like to take the girls to Venice, since Mr. Babe's never been, and I haven't been there since I was 12. But there's no direct flight to Sicily from Venice (or there wasn't the last time I checked), which means going to Milan, and then flying to Palermo. I'd do Florence, but I think that the girls wouldn't appreciate it.
Oh, and I do like Chocolate Martinis, but only after dinner.
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02/27/08 10:58 PM
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I agree, its totally an after dinner drink... and a substitute for dessert if you are dieting lol.
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02/28/08 11:45 PM
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Well, tonite I saw a lime sitting on the counter, and before it went bad, I just had to make an authentic margarita, its easy as 3, 2, 1:
3 Parts tequila, 2 parts lime juice, one part Cointreau or Orange liquer -- shake hard with ice for half a minute or so... prefect every time ;-)
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SB, I just want you to know I am looking for that Stock Limoncello! I was at 3 different liquor stores today (I had 3 errands to run, all at strip malls, each has a liquor store LOL), no luck, I wonder if they still make it or if just all the other brands far outsell it. It might be something they even export if you've never seen it here? I suspect that since its a relatively simple liquor, (sugar, lemon, vodka) they might even supply other companies with it and/or have a spinoff company and just bottle it under that brand for twice the price, who knows, I'm still looking
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03/02/08 11:03 PM
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Yea, you know its funny... when I was in St. Croix, rum was literally cheaper than water ($3/liter), and when I saw Stoli at $7 a bottle, i gasped (its $22 here), I managed to fit 3 bottles in with my luggage. They actually give you a free rum tasting AT the airport when you arrive! In any case, I guess my thoughts were correct, the other brands just outsell it. I will keep looking just out of curiosity, I am always on the lookout for unique liquers.
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