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Mike became Don overnight... respect from rival bosses?
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07/09/05 02:28 PM
07/09/05 02:28 PM
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Did the Mob world respect Mike when Vito transferred power to him overnight? Or everybody thought he was a joke until he started to whack his rivals one by one and made his prescence felt?
Ricky Roma: You are here to help us... does that seem clear to you? That's your job... To help us, not to fuck us up... to help those who are going out there to try to earn a living... You fairy! You company man!
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Re: Mike became Don overnight... respect from rival bosses?
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07/09/05 03:13 PM
07/09/05 03:13 PM
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I wouldn't go as far to say that he was regarded as a "joke" -- certainly everyone knew he was responsible for killing Sollozzo and McCluskey -- but he wasn't held in the same high regard that his father was, either.
Even within his own inner circle there were doubts. Clemenza begged to start his own family, and Tessio, of course, ultimately proved to be a complete traitor.
But after he killed everyone off, I would imagine it was a different story.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Mike became Don overnight... respect from rival bosses?
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07/09/05 09:36 PM
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It's said in the book that one of the many things Michael learned from his father was to have your enemies overestimate your faults, and your friends and family underestimate your virtues. Michael pulled it off in spades, and everything came full circle during the baptism scene. By Part II, Michael was presumably the most ruthless mob boss in the history of the American Mafia, wiping out nearly all of his enemies. The scene in the boathouse, where Tom tells Mike it's impossible to kill Roth, it reminds me of the scene in Vito's study, where Sonny and the caporegimes are making the "hit-list." Tom says something to the effect of "The key is Sollozo, you take him out, everything falls into line." Sonny wanted to hear nothing of it. In the boathouse scene, Tom asks Michael "You've won, do you have to take everybody out?" Mike says "I don't feel I have to take everybody out, just my enemies." To sum it up, I don't think Mike even sought the respect of the rival Dons, seeing as he took them all out. He didn't seek respect from any of his enemies, he let his actions speak louder than words.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: Mike became Don overnight... respect from rival bosses?
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07/12/05 03:59 PM
07/12/05 03:59 PM
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I think there was a big difference between Michael and Vito. Michael had more of a temper (Vito would never raise his voice to Tom Hagen) and he was less reluctant to settle things through negotiations. In the scene where Vito makes the deal with the other families so Michael can come home, he makes the point that he has "never" refused an accomodation except on the drug issue. Michael, on the other hand was never interested in accomodating anyone.
No question that everyone feared Mike, but whether they respected him was something else. In GF III even Don Altobello, an old ally devided it was time to take Michale out, and Michael himself in the famous Dontomassino open casket speech asks out loud why was Dontomassino so loved while Michael was so feared even though both of them were equally honorable. Michael was not loved because he didnt give much. Vito built his empire on doing favors for other people and then getting favors in return. Michael did it more form the barrel of a gun.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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