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Re: Autchwitz
[Re: Longneck]
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04/26/08 12:49 PM
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I had a class on WWII writing and we covered the holocaust and saw a video of what it looks like now and really it looked like a big empty field surrounded by trees on the video.
Had to go to the holocaust museum in Terre Haute ran by Eva Kor. She's an interesting person.
Before this class I saw Jews as a religious group rather than a race. I'm still not sure if I really know the difference. It is not a race. Judaism is a religion that has become so closely identified with Semitic ethnicity that they are hard to distinguish apart. There are also cultural features that accrue to Judaism. But Sammy Davis, Jr. was Jewish and he was hardly Semitic. By the way, there are a plethora of books available about the Holocost. I would suggest that one start with Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
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Re: Autchwitz
[Re: olivant]
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04/26/08 01:46 PM
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It is not a race. Judaism is a religion that has become so closely identified with Semitic ethnicity that they are hard to distinguish apart. There are also cultural features that accrue to Judaism. But Sammy Davis, Jr. was Jewish and he was hardly Semitic. Yes, Judaism is a religion, not a race. There are Jews of all races, just as there are Christians and Muslims of all races. "Semitic" refers to the ancient origins of Judaism among Semitic people, and to the derivation of the Hebrew language. By the way, there are a plethora of books available about the Holocost. I would suggest that one start with Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Still the definitive work.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Autchwitz
[Re: svsg]
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04/27/08 12:34 AM
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Elie Wiesel's 'Night' is a compelling account of his experiences in concentration camps during the Holocaust. It should be required reading in our high schools or colleges.
Around 1991 I was working at a voting location helping a colleague of mine, who was running for a local office. I spent the day working there with an older man, who was supporting another candidate in another race. His name was Sam Sharon. From the early morning on he talked to me about everything from the weather to newspaper stories, and asked me all kinds of questions about my family, work, etc. He had worked elections for many years, and I began thinking that this little old man was a party hack, who was going to drive me crazy.
He referred to his father dying young, and I asked what had happened. He said he wasn't sure, but they had been separated on a train to Auschwitz. He recounted how he couldn't understand at the time why his father was crying when he hug him, which was the last time he saw him. He was also separated from his sisters and mother, who all died during the Holocaust. He showed me the number tatooed on his arm. I was transfixed, and ashamed that I had dismissed this guy as an old blowhard after learning his story.
He has spoken in grade schools, high schools, churches and scout troops, and I understand that he would have as many questions for the kids as they'd have for them. A young neighbor was doing a school report on the Holocaust and I referred her to Sam. She said he was a wealth of information, but he talked her ear off about anything that would pop into his head.
He died 6 or 7 years ago.
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Re: Autchwitz
[Re: olivant]
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04/27/08 01:39 AM
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Sammy Davis, Jr. was Jewish and he was hardly Semitic. FWIW, he converted to Judaism.
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Re: Autchwitz
[Re: klydon1]
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04/27/08 01:58 PM
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Elie Wiesel's 'Night' is a compelling account of his experiences in concentration camps during the Holocaust. It should be required reading in our high schools or colleges.
Extremely compelling!!! It IS required reading in the private high schools in my area. And I think that everyone should read the book. I don't believe it's a tourist attraction in the way that Disney World is. I certainly would hate to think that people would see it that way. Unfortunately SB there are people who do view it as a tourist attraction in that manner. It's probably because they are either insensative or perhaps just plain oblivious to the horrors that took place. What are you going to do.
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