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Re: The Boxing Thread!
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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05/05/09 12:48 PM
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Here is a very clear copy of the fight. http://www.boxinghighlights.info/?p=1664Yogi, I'm sorry if you were offended by the commentary. That was not the intent. Simply telling it like it is with no malice. Richard is a good man unlike Floyd Mayweather sr who attacked the character of Freddy Roach and cannot even give Manny Pacquiao the dignity of respect for what he has done. Have a good day mate. Cheers.
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Re: The Boxing Thread!
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05/06/09 10:32 AM
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Ibarra i wasn't offended my friend. I just think Hatton is getting a bit of a bum deal now in the press and i feel that is a bit harsh. I do agree with you about Mayweather Sr who Hatton should never have let anywhere near him. His comments about Roach were silly. Roach is the best coach in the world and he just happens to have the best fighter. Awesome combo 
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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Re: The Boxing Thread!
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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05/06/09 11:09 AM
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From an offense-oriented fighter who made his US debut in June 2001,Manny Pacquiao has metamorphosed into a do-it-all punching machine now regarded as the best boxer in the world pound-for-pound and appears headed towards becoming an all-time great. I have a lot orf respect for Manny. Not only is he a great boxer, he is a very good person.
Pacquiao starts every fight with a fervent prayer while on his knees and expresses sincere concern for his fallen foes and love for his family, supporters, and the Filipino people. He is a very humble high profile athlete. Something lacking in today's in your face, me, me ,me athlete. Neither boxer is American, and we Americans often like to see American athletes here in America.
Last Saturday, after seeing Ricky Hatton get knocked-out cold by a Pacquiao left hand to the chin, one can’t help but feel concerned for his health.
Indeed, the Brit who never lost to anyone before in the weight class of 140 lbs. woke up and recovered enough to walk back to his dressing room. Still, it would be hard to believe that he did not suffer some sort of a permanent damage which may show up in the future.
On the other side of the coin, while we feel for Ricky Hatton, we have nothing but contempt for his trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr. I mean, the man is a motor mouth and he was telling everyone within an ear-shot weeks before the fight that he is the best and “Freddie Roach is just a “joke”.
Thanks to Manny Pacquiao the true Mayweather colors came shining true.
After the fight, Mayweather showed total lack of class and very poor sportsmanship.
The guy who loves to proclaim himself as the “best there is” did not even show up at the podium with the Team Hatton during the official post-fight conference.
Was he perhaps scared that the media will expose him?
If his absence was because he rode with Hatton and Oscar de la Hoya to the Valley Hospital, I would have thought more of him as a trainer.
But he did not!
To make things worse, he could not even muster enough guts to admit that they lost! Or perhaps accept the reality that Hatton did not learn anything from him sufficient enough to counter what Roach has taught Pacquiao.
And, he still continues to be adamant that he is better than Freddie Roach!
In fact, if Hatton’s performance last Saturday was the best Mayweather could do to get Hatton on par with Pacquiao, Mayweather totally failed as a trainer.
Mayweather insisted that Hatton did not hold his hands up as instructed.
If one is on the blaming game, they should look no farther.
Mayweather did not train Hatton well enough. If he could not even train him to listen and carry such a simple instruction how can he expect him to learn the many other things needed to beat Pacquiao?
But why put all the blame on Hatton? Could he not at least accept the fact that he is partially responsible for the loss too?
Word is Mayweather may not be part of Team Hatton anymore. That is well and good for Team Hatton.
Apparently he and Gareth Williams, Ricky Hatton's attorney do not see eye to eye.
Word leaked out that Mayweather was in many occasions late for training and after the fight, blamed Hatton for the lost. Of course such misgivings would not sink well on Team Hatton. And, it would not be a surprise if they let him go.
By unseating Ricky Hatton, Manny won his 6th title in as many weight divisions. 5th recognized title. More so, he is the first fighter to win a 4th lineal or real championship in 4 weight divisions. He has now won the flyweight, featherweight (which many erroneously do not recognize), junior-lightweight and now junior-welterweight lineal championship.
Manny's Lineal titles:
Flyweight -112 lbs (KO Sasakul) Featherweight - 126 lbs (TKO Barrera) Jr. Lightweight - 130 lbs (SD JMM) Jr. Welter - 140 lbs (KO Hatton)
World Titles recognized by sanctioning bodies:
WBC world flyweight champion IBF world super bantamweight champion WBC world super featherweight champion WBC world lightweight champion IBO world Jr. Welterweight champion
World Titles recognized by the public at large:
WBC world flyweight champion IBF world super bantamweight champion Ring Magazine world featherweight champion WBC world super featherweight champion WBC world lightweight champion IBO world Jr. Welterweight champion
Ring magazine titles:
World featherweight champion World super featherweight champion World light welterweight champion
Non world titles:
OPBF flyweight champion WBC international super bantamweight champion WBC international super featherweight champion
In professional boxing, the lineal championship of a weight class is a notional world championship title. It is initially held at some moment in time by a boxer universally acclaimed as the best in the class. Another boxer can only win the lineal championship by defeating the reigning lineal champion in the ring. The lineal champion is described as "the man who beat the man".
A boxer loses his lineal championship if he is defeated,moves up in weight class or retires.
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Re: The Boxing Thread!
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05/15/09 07:24 PM
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In fact, if Hatton’s performance last Saturday was the best Mayweather could do to get Hatton on par with Pacquiao, Mayweather totally failed as a trainer.
Mayweather insisted that Hatton did not hold his hands up as instructed.
If one is on the blaming game, they should look no farther.
Mayweather did not train Hatton well enough. If he could not even train him to listen and carry such a simple instruction how can he expect him to learn the many other things needed to beat Pacquiao?
I've been a Hatton fan for quite a long time now, long long before he made it to even the WBU world stage (the rubbish 5th world title belt). And after so many years in the professional game I think it's an almost impossible task to change a fighters style. Mayweather actually did though, if you'd seen Hatton training. I've never seen such good defense and head movement, he was actually really good. The problem with Hatton is that as soon as he's in the ring it's all forgotten and he reverts back to his old style. Until Mayweather Jr it worked and he learned a lesson there. And a couple of good confidence wins and joining Mayweather Sr really looked to get him back on track. But the truth is, and it pains me to say it, he will always be the same ring fighter. I actually believe he can carry on fighting, even at world stage considering the fighters currently at 140lbs. Although the top P4P fighters, no he's never going to beat them. Because he's seen the greatness of fighting and been to the top of the game, I don't think it's worth it now just to beat 'almosts' or 'nearly' world champions. Although, there's only one fight I want to see him take... Junior Witter. As much as he doesn't want to give him a payday, it's still a good chance for Hatton to win and build British interest in the sport. Go out on a (mini) high.
So die all who betray Giuliano
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Re: The Boxing Thread!
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05/21/09 09:03 AM
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He is exciting and can finish guys off but his own chin is wobbly abd i still feel that if he gets caught off somebody at top level it is bye bye time. However, he is popular and working with Freddie Roach can only help him. I see Greg Page passed away also 
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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