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Re: Why have so many witnesses while killing Carlo?
[Re: Danito]
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09/05/08 10:16 AM
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Michael could have wanted to send a visible message to deter any other potential traitors.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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Re: Why have so many witnesses while killing Carlo?
[Re: uomini_d_onore]
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09/21/08 01:39 PM
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Olivant once again raised the point about cinematic expression overriding logic--in this case, having a witness other than Clemenza to Carlo's execution. But again, what multiple witnesses heard from Michael was that he was banishing Carlo from the family.
A couple of far more serious violations of logic occurred in the films:
--When Michael, Calo and Fabrizio are at Sr. Vitelli's cafe, he tells an indignant Vitelli and his sons his name and that he's hiding from the police of his country--not real smart things to reveal to three guys who think he's intending to commit the ultimate Sicilian infamia of dishonoring their daughter and sister. He also tells Vitelli, "There are people who'll pay a lot of money for that information. But then your daughter would be losing a father instead of gaining a husband." Vito never, ever, would have approved of making an unnecessary threat. It's a great scene--one of the best in the trilogy--but it doesn't make Michael look very smart.
--In the penultimate boathouse scene in II, Michael has a full discussion of Roth's escape plans with Rocco, Neri and Tom present, then says, "I want it [his plane] met." He had three witnesses to a direct order for murder--no buffas. The drama of that scene (yet another great one) was to show just how low he'd go to humiliate Tom and manipulate Rocco. But could easily have been a fatal mistake for Michael.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Why have so many witnesses while killing Carlo?
[Re: Turnbull]
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09/21/08 05:23 PM
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Olivant once again raised the point about cinematic expression overriding logic--in this case, having a witness other than Clemenza to Carlo's execution. But again, what multiple witnesses heard from Michael was that he was banishing Carlo from the family. It's true, Rocco, Neri, Tom heard him saying this. But there were many more people around when Carlo was killed in Michael's presence. Every one of them could witness that Michael did not interfere, that he didn't call the police, that he saw Clemenza doing it. There were just too many people around, there was no buffer-effect. The book has only Clemenza and the driver as witnesses of the killing. Probably only Clemenza got the order.
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