0 registered members (),
142
guests, and 31
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,475
Posts1,090,389
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,254 Mar 13th, 2025
|
|
|
Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32012
08/26/05 08:21 PM
08/26/05 08:21 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61 Italy
Flora Corleone
OP
Button
|
OP
Button
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Italy
|
In GF I and II is obvious Kay badly wanted the Corleone family to become legitimate - and she often reminded Michael of his promise to do so. So, why in GF III - when Michael seems to finally be on the way to achieve a respectability of some sort - she comes up and says those famous lines "I preferred when you were a common mafia hood" or "it's now that you are more respectable that I dread you more" etc...? What did she actually want from that poor thing? 
"...Brucia la luna in cielo, e io brucio d'amore..."
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32015
08/27/05 12:40 PM
08/27/05 12:40 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61 Italy
Flora Corleone
OP
Button
|
OP
Button
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Italy
|
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe: I believe that she felt that because Michael was buying his newfound respectability with charitable donations, that he was no more legitimate than when they were first married. It was just a disguise. And that with his cloak of legitimacy, he was more dangerous than ever. Thank you Sicilian Babe, that really makes sense; yet, I didn't have the impression Michael was "buying" his respectability - in GF III he really seemed to believe in the charity association and in the whole Immobiliare deal as a mean to finally give legitimacy to his business, so I found Kay's remarks kind of cruel.... 
"...Brucia la luna in cielo, e io brucio d'amore..."
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32016
08/27/05 12:41 PM
08/27/05 12:41 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61 Italy
Flora Corleone
OP
Button
|
OP
Button
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Italy
|
Originally posted by dontomasso: I believe that there was little attention paid to continuity when they wrote GFIII. LOL! You are not a GF III fan, aren't you? 
"...Brucia la luna in cielo, e io brucio d'amore..."
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32018
08/27/05 01:08 PM
08/27/05 01:08 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,238 The Ravenite Social Club
Don Cardi
Caporegime
|
Caporegime

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,238
The Ravenite Social Club
|
Originally posted by olivant: Except for that one line in GFII, I don't recall Kay harping on Michael's achieving legitimacy.
"It made me think of what you once told me - "in five years the Corleone Family will be completely legitimate." That was seven years ago." - Kay "MICHAEL I'm not going back to Nevada. I brought the children to say good-bye to you. I want you to know that I'm very happy for you. I suppose that I always knew you were to smart to let any of them beat you." - Kay "What really happened with PENTANGELI MICHAEL?" - Kay "Look -- look what's happened to us, Mike -- my God, look what's happened to our son, MICHAEL." - Kay "ANTHONY's not fine! You will hear about it!" - Kay "Oh, oh MICHAEL. MICHAEL you are blind. It wasn't a miscarriage -- it was an abortion. An abortion MICHAEL. Just like our marriage is an abortion. Something that's unholy and evil. I didn't want your son MICHAEL -- I wouldn't bring another one of you sons into this world. It was an abortion MICHAEL. It was a son MICHAEL, a son and I had it killed -- .because this must all end." - Kay She was a nagging Bitch! I liked her character most in GFIII. Don Cardi 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32019
08/27/05 01:24 PM
08/27/05 01:24 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,721 AZ
Turnbull
|

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,721
AZ
|
Michael and Kay were locked into self-deception. Michael constantly believed that he could be "legitimate," but continually rationalized his criminal behavior by believing himself to be no more crooked than supposedly legitimate types like politicians and judges. Kay, for her part, believed that she could "change" Michael's most fundamental behavior and values. She, too, rationalized Michael's failure to become "legit." But, after the Tahoe shooting, Kay finally came to the conclusion that it was hopeless. Check out the look she gives Michael right after the shooting, when she'd clutching Anthony. She finally realized that she'd been misled--and had been misleading herself. That's why, in III, she gave Michael that sharp-edged speech about his hypocrisy in buying respectability from the Church, "common Mafia hood," etc. My favorite distillation of their post-Tahoe relationship: Michael shouts at her, "I spent my life protecting my family from the horrors of this world." "But you became my horror," Kay replies. Right, Kay!
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32022
08/29/05 04:24 PM
08/29/05 04:24 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 66 Toronto
Maple Leafs
Button
|
Button
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 66
Toronto
|
"Look -- look what's happened to us, Mike -- my God, look what's happened to our son, MICHAEL." - Kay
"ANTHONY's not fine! You will hear about it!" - Kay
What did they mean when they were referring to Anthony being, or not being "fine". What will Michael be hearing about?
Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, Neil Peart...RUSH
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32024
08/29/05 04:36 PM
08/29/05 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 66 Toronto
Maple Leafs
Button
|
Button
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 66
Toronto
|
Thanks DT, that's what I thought. I was wondering if there was any more meaning to it though. Since I read all these posts on this site, I am always looking for deeper meanings, or something I missed. 
Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, Neil Peart...RUSH
|
|
|
Re: Question about Kay (In GF III)
#32025
08/29/05 10:28 PM
08/29/05 10:28 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 17,300 New York
Sicilian Babe
|

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 17,300
New York
|
Originally posted by dontomasso: Anthony, who we all knew grew up to be a somewhat light in the loafers opera star was "traumatized" by a few bullets being sprayed into Mike and Kay's bedroom. Because he's an opera singer, Anthony's gay?? Actually, I think that Kay is talking about the effect that their lifestyle is having on Anthony. He is growing up in isolation, surrounded by bodyguards, imprisoned on the Tahoe estate. If you remember, Kay isn't even allowed to take them shopping or to visit their grandparents. He talks about how he doesn't even know the people that gave him gifts at his First Communion party. The kid's life is anything but normal, and IMHO that is what Kay is referring to.
President Emeritus of the Neal Pulcawer Fan Club
|
|
|
|