Just thought I would start an NFL thread so we don't have discussions going on all over the place, like in the fantasy threads etc...

Discuss!

bears are screwed...yea

At least you don't have to worry about Rex Grossman anymore.

I don't know Blibble. Jay Cutler did his best Rex Grossman impersonation on Sunday night. If it were not for Jake Delhomme, Cutler would have easily won the award for worst QB of Week One.

Better to be lucky than good: NE needed a furious finish last night to beat Buffalo. NE's defense looked terrible for about 3.5 quarters. Belichick better hope that Brady puts up a ton of points.

Oakland got screwed last night. For some reason the booth reviewed the touchdown catch at the end of the first half and said Murphy didn't have control of the ball. I don't know what they were looking at. The game should have been tied at 24 at the end of the game and they would have had a chance to win still.

I remember last year posting how laughable it was that Cutler was named to the Pro Bowl. He jacked up some numbers, but for a few years now, he doesn't exactly rise to the occasion, and too frequently looks lost. His strong arm gets him some attention, but he has a lot to prove yet if he wants to be considered among the upper tier of QBs.

The Patriots got a break with the fumble, but I felt they were going to win anyway. Brady just had his way with the Bills, who lost a similar Monday night game against Dallas a year or two ago, on the last two drives. To separate the good teams from the bad, always look at how they do in the final two minutes of each half in close games. They fumbled away a game against the Jets in December as well. They find a way to win while New England finds a way to win usually.

I didn't see the play, Blibble as I had fallen asleep (late kickoff on the east coast). I woke up on the play just before Russell's long td pass to put the Raiders ahead.

But I was shocked by the video replay in the Notre Dame game that seemingly confirmed the call that Armando Allen had stayed in bounds and scored the td, but the officials inexplicably overturned it. The replay feature in the NFL and NCAA hasn't exactly secured good results.

This is my 7th year in a Last Man Standing pool. Prize money is up to $150K plus. The best I've done is make it to week 8. Last year I went out in week 1, the Colts lost (hear that Longneck), this year I went with the Patriots. They were down 24-13 when I shut off the TV - couldn't bear to watch it. This morning I woke up to see that they pulled it out.

I saw parts of 3 games this weekend. The Jets and Eagles looked tough. Fast on defense. Mark Sanchez had a great debut. He could be for real. Giants played a solid game. Giants at Dallas this weekend. Eagles-Saints should be good. Steelers suck (just kiddin' Kly)

just wondering those who watched the late game on monday how did you react to the ref's uniform. i thought it looked weird and thought waldo was calling the game.

I agree. That was a TD catch.

Jamarcus Russell throws a pretty ball...5 yards away from his nearest receiver.

I liked the uniforms.

Could be a problem if one of the teams wear similar colors. They seemed to blend in; I think they should stand out. Black and white stripes accomplish that. I wonder what the motivation or reason for the change? Maybe the goal posts should be day-glo orange or green. How about the yardage lines? Make them different colors as you get closer to the end zone; like a rainbow!

Those were the old AFL officials' uniforms. They wore them in both games Monday night. The Patriots and Bills wore throwback uniforms. The Raider uniforms hadn't changed, and the Chargers' uniforms change the most frequently in the NFL.

I agree with you completely on Sanchez. He'll struggle in some games as a rookie, but the Jets have to be excited about what they have. He's going to be a winner.

I like Stafford too, but he has a tougher road to travel, but he and Calvin Johnson will have a lot of success together.

I think that between Sanchez and Stafford, Sanchez has a much higher probability for success in the NFL. Sanchez came from a top-tier, pro-style offense at USC. More importantly, he went to a Jets team that has some offensive talent: Thomas Jones is a quality RB, which in turn takes some of heat off of Sanchez. If there is no effective running game, opposing defenses can just tee off and blitz a young QB like crazy.

Almost equally as important, Sanchez has a fairly decent offensive line in NY, anchored by Ferguson and Mangold. While Sanchez lacks an explosive WR like Calvin Johnson, he has serviceable possession-type wideouts.

Stafford, on the other hand, is playing for a team with one of the worst NFL records of the past decade. Throwing to Calvin Johnson helps, but Detroit has a suspect running game and a poor offensive line. I think Stafford's success, if it happens, is several years away and could easily be on a team other than Detroit.

Go Detroit!

Week 2 had some surprises after most of the favorites won to open the NFL season in the previous week. I was somewhat surprised to see the following: Tennessee fall to 0-2, Pittsburgh lose a winnable road game, Philly get blown out at home, Green Bay fall to Cincy, and the Raiders put up an anemic offensive performance yet still win.

I was not surprised to see the following: Detroit blow another game in which they led by double digits, the Browns fail to score an offensive TD, Tony Romo play consistently inconsistent, and Matt Hasselbeck get hurt again.

Go Bears! Hopefully, they don't suffer a let-down in what should be a win against Seattle next week.

Why do the Browns suck again this year? At least one Ohio team won yesterday.

I was sure the Bears would lose horribly to the Steelers.

Green Bay is too good to lose to Cincinnati...

Congrats, DS. The Bears did a very good job defensively and did what they had to do on offense to steal the win. The Steelers had multiple opportunities, but didn't capitalize on field goals, and the Bear corner stepped up and made an outstanding play to bat away what would have been a game winning td to Holmes. I knew it would be a close game.

Don't knock the Bengals too hard. They're not as bad as you think.

Tradition.

Too many reasons to list, Mig. They have been on a losing path for the better part of 20 years now. While Klydon's comment was meant as a jab, he is correct. Seriously, the last time they had a sustained playoff run was in 1989. My opinion is that it all starts at the top. Since getting the franchise in 1998 and their first season in '99, the problem starts with the Lerner ownership. They have made some horrible hires: 1) mob lawyer Carmen Policy and the utterly incompetent GM Dwight Clark, combined with their 4th choice for head coach: Chris Palmer, 2) starting over with 4 new coaches in the span of 11 years.

The NFL screwed the Browns by awarding the franchise to Lerner in September 1998 and having them field a team in 1999. In comparison, Jacksonville & Carolina were given 3 years to get their organization running before commencing play. That said, there is no excuse for the Browns to continue to flounder - they have had enough time to turn things around.

To me, they are every bit as poor of an organization as the Pittsburgh Pirates of MLB and the LA Clippers of the NBA. I used to get upset about it - for the better part of the last two years, I have been apathetic.

Well lets hope things will go better this season. I'll still watch if they show the games here in Salem.

The Buccaneers are really terrible. They have no talent and make up for it with a moron as a head coach. They could lose every game this season.

I sincerely doubt that the Bucs will go winless. Think about how long it took for the Lions to be the first winless team since the NFL went to a 16 game season. I think the last team to go winless was the 1976 Bucs, who were an expansion team in a 14 game season. Even the worst teams in the past 25 years manage to win one game. The Bucs have a quasi-running game and an adequate QB. They are most definitely a team in transition, but will win 2-4 games this season.

The Browns do not have a winnable game until they face Detroit on Nov. 22nd. They could realistically be 0-9 at that point of the season. And I will go on record right now that the Lions have more talent than the Browns. Even though Detroit lost all of its games last season, they were in positions to win many of them. The Browns have scored 1 offensive TD in its last eight regular seasons, dating back to last season. Beyond pathetic.

so they be good as the 1976 team lol

i am happy with the bears winning (i did pick them on losing this week after last week, but this was a toss up). i just hope they don't fall back down to seattle.

That was one hell of a game tonight. Miami almost pulled it off.

Bengals might go 7-9, but I was expecting Green Bay to compete for the division title in the NFC North.



Less than 15 minutes on offense and the Colts still score more. It's annoying that teams play us like that but it doesn't really matter with Peyton Manning at QB.