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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: SC]
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11/05/09 08:33 AM
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SB...rivalries are GREAT part of every sport...as long as it's all done with good spirit. Haven't seen any real hooligans round this forum tho. Well, except Gina of course  Anywayz..congratz to JG, SB and Irishman (hope I didnt forget anyone) Enjoy it while you still can....cos next year the Cubs will eat you all for breakfast  2010 champs: Chi Cubs That's a fact. Geoff, Maybe you're too busy with other things in your life.
Yeah...painting bathrooms 
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- James Cagney in "Taxi!" (1932)
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: Double-J]
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11/05/09 09:02 AM
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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*
Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?
The 2007 Boston Red Sox. Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years? The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll). Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election.
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 09:05 AM
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You don't have to tell me about rivalries, Fame. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. When I gave my hand in marriage to a Yankee fan, and then actually became one, it was almost too much for him!  Because he loved Mr. Babe so much, though, he decided to let it go. Now I wonder if Mr.Babe is named after you or after another babe (babe ruth) 
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- James Cagney in "Taxi!" (1932)
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: SC]
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11/05/09 09:15 AM
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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*
Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?
The 2007 Boston Red Sox. Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years? The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll). Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election. Oh well. I have to say, your reaction is priceless. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. *sad face* payroll. You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins. Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! 
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: Double-J]
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11/05/09 09:28 AM
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You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins. It wasn't their destiny to win this year... remember, you're talking about the Red Sox... perennial losers (and, quite frankly, those teams I enjoyed watching more). Sure, I wanted to see them win, but don't want it or expect it every year. If you were around (not that I missed you) you would have read that I believed the Sox would not get past the Angels in the LDS) this year. But if you want to bring up "stunned fans", NOTHING will ever match 2004. (and I'm referring to the those last 4 games - and not the 4 games in the World Series).
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: SC]
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11/05/09 09:35 AM
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That happened YEARS ago.... is that the reason you cheer for them? But if you want to bring up "stunned fans", NOTHING will ever match 2004. (and I'm referring to the those last 4 games - and not the 4 games in the World Series).
Wait, what?  Remember when A-Rod wasn't clutch and people considered him a terrible baseball player? [/sarcasm]
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 11:51 AM
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Congratulations to the Yankees, and to SB, Irish, MaryCas, Geoff...and DJ, who coincidentally reappeared after the victory.  What can I say? Sometimes the good guys don't win.  I Pettitte did a good job on short rest. He must use one hell of a masking agent. In a way I'm glad the season is over, and I'm sure I'll be looking forward to watching the Phillies next year as some of their young talent develops. Some interesting points were made about the unequal advantages that baseball allows. I'd like to continue this discussion ion the thread, but I figure I'll give the Yankee fans a day or two to puff their chests. By the way, Matsui came up with some big hits, but I'm disappointed that the MVP went to a DH, instead of a baseball player (you can tell how I feel about the DH). I mean how valuable are you if you can't beat out Swisher or Damon for a corner outfield spot. Jeter batted leadoff, hit over .400 and played a demanding position, and Damon had the hit in Game 4 that was a turning point in the series.
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: Double-J]
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11/05/09 12:10 PM
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Honestly Kly, Utley should have been the MVP. No question about it, had he gotten some better pitching and had hitters ahead of him actually get on base (is this the place for a "Jimmy Rollins is overrated" debate?), it could be a whole different story.
It's hard to give the award to a player on a losing team, but what's funny is that Utley had a subpar postseason until the series. Baseball is a rollercoaster type of game. I thought of pitchers too. Pettitte was the winner of two games, but wasn't dominant. Sabathia pitched better, but was 0-1 and Rivera got his saves, but didn't have the one run situation or a really close game save. Anyway, the MVP is just icing.
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Re: 2009 World Series
[Re: Double-J]
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11/05/09 12:16 PM
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Incidentally, is it acceptable that I hate the Philly fans but not the team? I really think the team, from top to bottom, is classy and was glad that the series showcased the two best teams. But the fans, from what I could discern from chants and catcalls, were ridiculous. Nothing like chanting "Yankees suck" even when they're beating the home team.  Note, of course, that this mantra doesn't apply to you. Usually, it's "F*** New York." But the chants centered on A-Rod and Pettitte for steroids. My friend, who was at a couple of games in Philly was wondering why "Group Sex Sucks!" until he realized Spike Lee was there and they were chanting "Girl 6 Sucks." I was at a game this year where the first ball was thrown out by a war hero in Afghanistan and Iraq. He got a standing ovation, but when he bounced the ceremonial toss hewas booed lustily.
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 12:35 PM
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It's hard to give the award to a player on a losing team, but what's funny is that Utley had a subpar postseason until the series. Baseball is a rollercoaster type of game.
I thought of pitchers too. Pettitte was the winner of two games, but wasn't dominant. Sabathia pitched better, but was 0-1 and Rivera got his saves, but didn't have the one run situation or a really close game save. Anyway, the MVP is just icing.
There's definitely a reason for having an MVP for each round of the playoffs. But honestly, I think the MVP should be the most valuable player, regardless of whether of not their team wins. Granted, some could make the argument that if a player was so valuable that inherently it should go hand in hand with winning, but there is no doubt that Utley was the most dangerous hitter in the World Series. Matsui was the MVP of game 6, that's for sure, but for the whole series, not so much.
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 12:36 PM
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Usually, it's "F*** New York." But the chants centered on A-Rod and Pettitte for steroids. My friend, who was at a couple of games in Philly was wondering why "Group Sex Sucks!" until he realized Spike Lee was there and they were chanting "Girl 6 Sucks."
I was at a game this year where the first ball was thrown out by a war hero in Afghanistan and Iraq. He got a standing ovation, but when he bounced the ceremonial toss hewas booed lustily.
Cole Hamels seems to be catching a lot of heat for his comments about being anxious for the season to end. I didn't really see to much of a problem with it, but then the story broke about Myers and Hamels getting into a scuffle in the locker room. What's your take on the Hamels issue? It would have been hilarious if the exchange between Myers and Hamels was true (e.g. "I thought you quit."). I would've loved to see if Hamels came back with something like "I thought you beat your wife." 
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 01:21 PM
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Congratulations again Yankee fans! I was in the first one in the boards to say it was over. of course it was a desperate try to evoke a jinx but I didn't even bother to stay awake until the end of the game, just like the whole postseason. I know I'll be missing baseball in 2 weeks.
as for the MVP, the thing is that the award most often is not handed to the "most valuable player"; there is some kind of hidden formula to it, and when no one really stands out from the rest, a couple of big hits could do it. I can't think of anyone better than the Godzilla to get the hardware this year. he sealed game 2 with a HR and posted the record for RBI in a World Series game, in the clinching game 6! batted .615 with 8 RBI! Uley was the best player on the field, but how valuable was him if his team lost 4 out of 6 games?
if Jimmy Rollins was getting on base, Utley's hot bat could've done more damage, and now the Phillies have an interesting situation with Rollins: he had one of the greatest seasons ever in 2007, but was one of the worst regulars in the MLB in 2009. sub .300 OBP, that does it for me. that is the most telling single statistic in baseball, and Rollins was in the bottom 5 in the MLB among players who qualified for the batting title. the Phillies at least have to remove him from the leadoff spot and find someone else. Victorino is only a great #2 hitter.
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 01:55 PM
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The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat.....the human drama of athletic competition...... Us older folks might remember those words in the opening of "Wide World of Sports". The show probably met its demise when ESPN began expanding its coverage and influence.
For some the "thrill of victory" was connected to the Yankees accomplishment. I'm a Yankee fan, but not fanatical. Professional sports has lost a lot of its "human drama of athletic competition". Its become BIG business and entertainment. Many say that the Yankees are the best team money can buy, but the Yankee organization also has the highest gross income. They play in a market where the fans have high incomes, high expectations and let's face it - the greatest city in the world.
Until baseball owners and union leadership institute salary caps you will always have a few teams buying up the better players.
I enjoy watching players like Jeter and Rivera, but I also admire good players on other teams; like Rollins, Utley and Howard.
Personally, I get more of a thrill watching the NY Marathon and see some skinny guy from Kenya cross the finish line, fall to his knees and kiss the ground. That seems more noble, thrilling and inspiring than A-rod pronouncing how wonderful his team is.....for $33 million a year.
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 07:05 PM
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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*
Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?
The 2007 Boston Red Sox. Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years? The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll). Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election. Oh well. I have to say, your reaction is priceless. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. *sad face* payroll. You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins. I agree. It was PRICELESS. ESPECIALLY seeing Papelbum stew in the dugout   Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! 1923 = The Curse of the Babe 2009 = The Curse of the Teix 
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Re: 2009 World Series
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11/05/09 07:09 PM
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[quote=SC][quote=Double-J] [quote=Double-J]Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! 1923 = The Curse of the Babe 2009 = The Curse of the Teix how does that make since...the sox traded away ruth in 1919. Teix was a free agent who was stolen away from the team with the most money.
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