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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/17/11 12:43 PM
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l probably pay off. He REALLY is a smart guy. Great show last night!! It answered that Chalky really was illiterate (gotta feel for the guy; even his own family kind of makes fun of him for that, yet they're the ones who fail to remember from whence he came).
The Commodore got the shit beat out of him (by Gillian). We find out that he physically raped her and she was evidently down for some payback despite her earlier statement that she had forgiven him.
Nucky is taking a BIG gamble on allowing federal charges brought against him (so he can now reach for his connections in the White House to help him). A ballsy move, but it wil
Two things that disturbed me.... 1) Richard (Jimmy's disfigured "partner") posing for Jimmy's wife. That kind of emotional opening can only lead to trouble. 2) Margaret holding back some cash (from her staff). That's going to lead to trouble, too. Yea that commodore scene was a surprise to me. I can only imagine how she felt all those years. I actually was glad she got payback opportunity but like you say, it appeared she had forgiven so scene was a surprise. I kind of feel the same about the Richard posing for Jimmy's wife as she sketched him. Honestly, I wasn't sure where it was going. For some reason, kind of creepy. I had a phone call and missed the scene about Margaret hiding cash. Also, the scene with Nucky with all the prostitutes? That was part of a "fixed election" plan no? TIS
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/17/11 12:52 PM
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Also, the scene with Nucky with all the prostitutes? That was part of a "fixed election" plan no? It wasn't planned that way, but the hookers admitted they were invited to Atlantic City to sleep with voters to change the voters' minds about candidates. That admission (that they crossed state lines - from Pennsylvania to New Jersey - for immoral purposes meant they were breaking a federal law (The Mann Act). Nucky's lawyer knew that if Nucky was charged with a federal crime then Nucky could ask his friend in the White House for help, and that help would probably get the charges dropped. Nucky is quite smart, but also quite lucky. It was Nucky's luck that the Commodore had a stroke (and without the Commodore being active, the others against Nucky stood no chance of beating him).
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/17/11 01:20 PM
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Good episode indeed. The actor who plays Luciano really IS Luciano. The same goes for Meyer Lansky and Rothstein. Terrific casting. Buscemi doesn't look the part, but he is convincing enough. But because the casting is very good in general, I'm starting to get somewhat indifferent about the actor who plays Al Capone. He really is too short. In the first episode he was talking to a guy who looked more like Al Capone than him. I don't get why they cast an English actor to play Capone in the first place?  It must have been a friendly favor or something.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/18/11 08:40 PM
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Was anyone else waiting to see how long Jimmy's mother could restrain herself from taking her emotions out on the Commodore? It will be interseting to see what she does to follow up. Gillian surprised me (with slapping the crap out of the Commodore). She said earlier that she had forgiven him. I guess she didn't. She's a little whacko; I would not be surprised to see her continue beating the Commodore.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/19/11 02:01 AM
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As Richard posing for Angie, it was long coming. It's obvious she doesn't love Jimmy. She is partly afraid of him, partly have no courage to run away. His mother makes it even yuckier. It was comparatively a comfortable cop out for her to marry him. He treats her artistic nature no more than a maid at best, sad, sad, sad...
Richard on the other hand craves for human contact so much, he gets it wherever he can. Better yet, from what he envies the most, the Jimmy's (on the surface) picturesque family. If he goes further to betray Jimmy, I doubt it for now.
Gillian of course cannot forgive the Commodore. She just wanted her son to go up the power ladder with the Commodore's help. That's why she told him she has forgiven his father, while no one obviously can forgive being screwed up that bad.
Women on this show try to do the best with the little power of charm they have over the men, having no real authority themselves. That's one of the best angels of this show for me.
On another note, Capone on this Show IS FABULOUS. I actually enjoy his portrayal the most.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/19/11 01:03 PM
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What was the deal with Chalky and his surly attitude at dinner? A lot of pent up anger coming out. I think it is mostly frustration at not being able to avenge his four workers' death at the booze warehouse. He's losing face in the community and he was told (by Nucky) to "be patient". Also, it doesn't help that his own family seems to make fun of his lack of education. Chalky has NOT forgotten from whence he came but his family apparently have (forgotten). It's (IMO) one of the better story lines.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/19/11 01:34 PM
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Was that the first time Chalky's family was shown? I was surprised at how "proper" they were. Right? I wanted to smack the proper out of his wife. I've already stated that Chalky is one of my favorite characters, but definitely not so his family.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/19/11 07:04 PM
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What was the deal with Chalky and his surly attitude at dinner? A lot of pent up anger coming out. I think it is mostly frustration at not being able to avenge his four workers' death at the booze warehouse. He's losing face in the community and he was told (by Nucky) to "be patient". Also, it doesn't help that his own family seems to make fun of his lack of education. Chalky has NOT forgotten from whence he came but his family apparently have (forgotten). It's (IMO) one of the better story lines. You have put it perfectly SC!!!  Chalky's had a near death experience, may face charges for the killing of a white man, is spoken to dismissively by Nucky ( be a patient boy), and is under threat of losing his business and political power in the black community. He THEN comes home to find his wife has invited over a suitor for his daughter without checking with him first and has refused to make the one dish he asked for because it's too "country". Under the circumstances that might make the most patient husband speak a sharp word or two. It's like "I may have to eat s*** outside this house but in this house I'm the boss!!"
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/24/11 02:40 PM
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Also i read the actor Michael Pitt (Jimmy) is a real pain in the ass onset. He just signed with a new agency to rep him but his old agency said they fired him and said "he’s really difficult on set and otherwise". It could be they are just pissed he left but i remember reading a few months back that the guy is hard to work with. http://www.deadline.com/?s=Michael+PittAnyone see the movie "Funny Games" that Pitt was in back in 2007? Naomi Watts and Tim Roth were also in it. It was about "Two psychopathic young men take a family hostage in their cabin." Anyway i thought he was pretty good in it and also in the movie Bully".
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/27/11 05:31 PM
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In the last episode, what was Richard doing when the guy in the woods walked up on him? He was looking for Adriana La Cerva.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/27/11 07:00 PM
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In the last episode, what was Richard doing when the guy in the woods walked up on him? He was looking for Adriana La Cerva. Indeed he was.  And he would have found her had the dog not interrupted. Seriously though Olivant, Richard was on the verge of killing himself. Either it was a happy accident that the dog stole his mask or the other people in the woods ordered the dog to fetch it. I think it was subtly understood that everyone knew they had just interrupted a suicide attempt, which is why they told Richard , "These woods are for living". And later on Richard asked Jimmy "Would you fight for me?". The character is desperately lonely and depressed.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/30/11 09:50 PM
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Poor Lucy, delivering her baby alone.  How horrible. And who was the kid that closed the curtains and turned her away when she asked him to get his mother? TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/31/11 05:55 AM
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Van Alden saying "I did it for you" has to be the best line of the night. WHY in the world would Van Alden let ANYONE know where he was keeping Lucy? I guess he's really not a player... I finally recognized Dominic Chianese. There's so much attention placed on Dharmody's strange relationship with his mom (kissing on the lips, clingy). Something big is going to happen there. The Margaret Schroeder character is becoming very unlikable.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/31/11 11:21 AM
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The Margaret Schroeder character is becoming very unlikable.
I'm starting to like her more each episode.  “Nucky, Rothstein…their time has passed.” Sounds like Rothstein will soon be history. Ironically, their time had only just began. When prohibition began Rothstein was at his height. I suspect Meyer only said it to please Darmondy and his ally.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/31/11 11:33 AM
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“Nucky, Rothstein…their time has passed.” Sounds like Rothstein will soon be history. Ironically, their time had only just began. When prohibition began Rothstein was at his height. I suspect Meyer only said it to please Darmondy and his ally. Yes, but we know Rothstein will soon be dead and it looks like the show's director is going to make it look like he was "pushed" aside by the young turks. Nucky we know will be around hopefully for a few more seasons. Rothstein really died in 1928 so we'll have to see if the show bumps that down to fit the show, or maybe he does live.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/31/11 11:47 AM
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Yes, but we know Rothstein will soon be dead ... They're only up to the early part of 1921, so far. Rothstein died in late 1928.
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Re: Boardwalk Empire
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10/31/11 11:50 AM
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Yes, but we know Rothstein will soon be dead ... They're only up to the early part of 1921, so far. Rothstein died in late 1928. Yes your correct, i guess he's good for the season. We'll have to see if they stick to the true timeline. Torrio is still around too, when did he step aside 1925?
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