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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: Don Sicilia]
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09/13/10 12:51 PM
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The Little Man has spoken.. Mitch Albom column CHICAGO -- That was a touchdown. You can show me the rule book. You can cite the referees. You can stand me in front of Jim Schwartz even as he defends the call that killed his team. I don't care. By any definition that makes sense, by any memory of any person who has ever played the game of football in their backyards, on their local fields, in high school, in college, anywhere -- that was a touchdown.
When you do what Calvin Johnson did, lift up between defenders, come down with the ball -- with two hands -- get both your feet down, hold the ball after that with one hand (one massive hand that can grip a football confidently) and as you go to break your fall with the other hand, you carry that ball all the way down to the ground, it's a touchdown. He didn't just break the plane of the goal line, he could have painted a new one! That may not be the definition for a passing touchdown (although it is for a rushing one), but it should serve as some parameter.
Calvin Johnson owned that ball. He owned it long enough for Lions fans to cheer, for Bears fans to groan, for one official to signal a score.
Here is what referee Gene Steratore said afterward: "The ruling is that in order for the catch to be completed he has got to maintain possession of the ball throughout the entire process of the catch."
In my mind he did. How long does the catch have to go on? Another 5 seconds? He made the catch, got his feet down, then went to break his fall with his left hand while maintaining full possession with his right.
I also don't concur with Schwartz when he said, "The rule is if you are going to the ground in the process of making the catch you need to finish with the football, and we didn't finish with the football."
Yeah, but "going to the ground" is where I differ. Johnson wasn't diving for a ball. He leapt up for it. Way different. Those rules about completing a catch generally apply to one being made as the body is heading to the ground. When you leap for a ball -- and come down with it -- to me, that IS making the catch. If your momentum then carries you downward and you have time to try to break your fall, I don't think you consider that part of the catch the way you do when a guy is diving for the ball....
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: Lilo]
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09/13/10 01:58 PM
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Harassment or BS? Time will tell. NEW YORK — The NFL is looking into how a female television reporter was treated at New York Jets practice Saturday. Ines Sainz, a reporter for Mexico's TV Azteca doing a story on quarterback Mark Sanchez, had footballs thrown in her direction by a Jets coach during practice, and players later called out to her in the team's locker room. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Sunday that the league and the Jets began looking into the situation when they were made aware of it Saturday night. Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum called Joanne Gerstner, a board member of the Association for Women in Sports Media, on Sunday to discuss the matter. The two organizations were working to schedule an educational and awareness session with the team, according to Jets spokesman Bruce Speight. Speight added that he also addressed the situation at the team meeting Sunday in advance of New York's season opener against Baltimore on Monday night at the New Meadowlands Stadium. Earlier Sunday, the Jets issued a statement, saying owner Woody Johnson spoke to Sainz on Sunday to discuss the incident. He stressed to Ines that he expects all members of the Jets organization to conduct themselves in a professional manner at all times," the statement said. The team also said it would work with the league to gather facts and "take any appropriate steps necessary to maintain a respectful environment for the media." The AWSM said in a statement Sunday night that both the NFL and the Jets were "responsive to our concerns" and that it would continue to monitor the situation. "We are awaiting the results of the investigation," the statement read, "and further action from the NFL and Jets." Update: SportsByBrooks found a tweet from Sainz, which allegedly shows the outfit she was wearing on the day of the incident: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/200320/INES-SAINZ-AZTECA-REPORTER-JETS.jpgStory and comments
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"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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09/22/10 01:07 PM
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From Huffington Ines Sainz, the female sports reporter who was allegedly harassed in the New York Jets locker room earlier in September, slammed the Association for Women in Sports Media in a column titled "My September 11th in New York." In her Saturday column for El Universal, Sainz criticized the AWSM and said she was "shaken by what happened." "Today I wonder why a well respected association such as the AWSM, within its right to inform about any violations of work conditions for its members, acted so impulsively," Sainz wrote. Sainz also said she was unhappy with the way the media covered the incident and believes that it set back the women's rights movement by "at least 50 years." On the other hand, the Azteca TV reporter is happy with how the NFL handled matters. Commissioner Roger Goodell said on Saturday that the league will implement a training program for all 32 teams on proper conduct in the workplace. Google Translation
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: klydon1]
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09/27/10 08:57 PM
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To quote "The Ladies Man":
It looks like someone stole 2 fine hams and shoved them down the back of her pants.
I'm in love (She's no Trish, but then again, who is?) 2 hams down her pants? I knew there was something not quite kosher about the picture. Hams or not, kosher or not. How about those Steelers!
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: olivant]
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09/30/10 11:53 PM
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To quote "The Ladies Man":
It looks like someone stole 2 fine hams and shoved them down the back of her pants.
I'm in love (She's no Trish, but then again, who is?) 2 hams down her pants? I knew there was something not quite kosher about the picture. Hams or not, kosher or not. How about those Steelers! 4th-string QB? No problem. Now it's time to put manners again on those Ravens, aka Steeler wannabes.
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: Longneck]
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10/09/10 02:46 AM
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Kansas City Chiefs are the last undefeated team in the NFL. What were the odds on that?
Indy's having a rough season with injuries and the O-Line is still broken. They only thing saving them is Peyton Manning is the QB and Joe Addai is a great receiving threat.
Green Bay is having an even rougher season with injuries, mostly on defense. Their offense hasn't been clicking like last season yet either. The running game hasn't been great without Ryan Grant but if you look at the last few years Grant never really got going until a quarter-midseason, so maybe it will pick up soon and Aaron Rodgers will go back to doing his Peyton Manning impersonation.
Vikings gave Old Man Croc Shot bags of money to return, trade for Randy Moss. Going for broke this season at the expense of the long term. Didn't draft a QB, doubt they really want Travaris to start after acquiring Sage Rosenfels then trading him when Favre came back. Could have had Clausen and given him time to sit for a year then unleashed him with a great WR corps (even before Moss, still not as good as Green Bay, Indy, or NYG, but close). What happens after the Vikings don't win the super bowl this season? Their QB retires, their 2 best WRs contracts end after this season. I think if they don't win it's time to ax the coach and restart.
It would be an ideal situation for a coach because they have plenty of playmakers on the team. I just think if you give Childress all of these things and he can't make it happen then it's not going to with him.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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10/20/10 07:25 PM
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One of NFL's best contemplating retirement after $75,000 fine levied by league James Harrison says he might retireESPN NFL October 20, 2010, 7:10 PM ET The Pittsburgh Steelers excused James Harrison from practice Wednesday as the Pro Bowl linebacker contemplated retirement, according to his agent. Harrison's agent Bill Parise said Wednesday his client is "very serious" about retiring after getting fined $75,000 for a hit that knocked Mohamed Massaquoi out of the Steelers' win over the Cleveland Browns. Harrison met Wednesday with Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, who excused his linebacker from the Steelers preparations for Sunday's game against the Dolphins. "We wouldn't joke about this," Parise said. "This is a very serious issue. James is very concerned about how to play football. If James is going to be fined $75,000 for making a legal tackle, then how do you go play football? It's quite frustrating to James, to Coach Tomlin, to me, to everybody." Asked how real these retirement threats were, Parise said, "We're working very hard to make sure that we make good decisions." Tomlin said he expects Harrison to return to practice on Thursday. "We had a meeting this morning, he and I did. It was a very productive one," Tomlin said in a conference call with Miami reporters. "I thought part of being productive and moving forward was excusing him for today and coming back starting new tomorrow." Asked if Harrison would return to the Steelers on Thursday or even at all this week, Parise said, "I sure hope so." Harrison said Tuesday on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" that he might consider retirement. "I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison told guest host Judy McDonald. "If not, I may have to give up playing football." Harrison was not penalized on the plays that resulted in Massaquoi and Josh Cribbs leaving the game with concussions. Massaquoi's agent, Brian Ayrault, didn't think the league was tough enough on Harrison. "Harrison has made $20 million over the past three years, and they only fined him $75,000?" he said. "To me, that's not going to be a deterrent. The Browns are probably going to be without a starter this week. I don't think that fine is a deterrent or fair to competitive balance. "The punishment did not fit the crime." Full Article
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