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Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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01/12/06 10:17 AM
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For all the money Michael had, we don't see Kay living lavishly. For example, she drives to the grocery store with the children in the car. You would think she would have a driver, or have a servant do the grocery shopping. When Michael arrives home from Havana, we see Kay at the sewing machine making a dress (or drapes, or whatever). Some women who marry a wealthy husband would have that sewing machine thrown out and start making their way to Saks Fifth Avenue (if it was around at that time  ). Also, we don't see the Tahoe house crawling with chefs, valets, and servants; we don't see Kay dripping with furs and jewels; and we don't see her jet setting off to the French Riviera or the Greek Islands every so often. Some people point to Kay's "nagging" Michael to go legitimate while not objecting to her comfy life as an indication that she was not a good wife. But in fact, she seems no different from any ordinary housewife. Indeed, it seems as though she's trying to avoid spending the money that Michael brings in from his various enterprises.
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Re: Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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01/12/06 01:31 PM
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Re: Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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Originally posted by dontomasso: No servants?? You think Kay whipped up all those food and drinks and "can of peas" for that first communion party? Goodness no, dontomasso. They obviously had caterers (plus parking attendants, an orchestra, etc.) to attend to that, since it seemed like the population of a small city was invited. I can't imagine anyone looking after an event that big without help. Michael and Kay lived on an estate (much like the "mall" in New York), so I've no doubt that they had servants. Even in GF1, I'm sure they had domestic help in a compound that huge. Yet in GF1 (and this is in daily life, not during "events" like Connie's wedding), we see Mama doing her own cooking; and in GF2, we don't see a lot of staff (if any) going in and out of Michael and Kay's house. Kay does her own grocery shopping and drives the children here and there. Now I don't think she has to worry about laundry and scrubbing the floors, but I also don't see her spending a lot of money for personal luxuries on herself (but then there is JustMe's observation about her clothes  ... )
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Re: Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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01/13/06 01:59 PM
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We do see the governess, or whatever she was, who helped with the children in a couple of scenes.
And sewing could've been Kay's hobby. The room she was in was not the bedroom (I don't think), and it wans't the family room (the room where everyone congregated after the hit attempt), so I'm thinking it was Kay's "sewing room" - kinda like her counterpart of Michael's office.
It's likely, I think, she was shown sewing to indicate how a woman who theoretically had so much really had so little, and was reduced to simply sitting home and sewing like the good Italian wives of yore.
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Re: Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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01/13/06 02:27 PM
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During that sewing scene, did she simply not notice that Michael was there, or was she deliberately ignoring him? Or perhaps, if she knew he was coming home that day, maybe the sewing thing was staged to make her look bored, preoocupied, and uncaring about Michael.
As for money, don't forget that she obviously had enough to take the kids to New Hampshire without asking Michael for it.
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Re: Kay Part 1: Why didn't Kay live like a rich woman?
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01/13/06 03:27 PM
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I think MC and Yogi are right. Kay was raised in a plain New England home (her father was a college professor, according to the novel). A woman of her generation and background would be taught to be "modest" in behavior and lifestye, no matter what the financial circumstances were. Also, I think she would have regarded the typical Mafia types around Michael (and probably their women) as "cheap," "flashy" and "showy" (I can't imagine what she thought of Deana). And, as dontomasso said, she had everything else--what more did she need? BTW: FFC's fanatical attention to detail underpins this thread: The modest lifestyle that stimulated this thread was a deliberate creation on his part, to contrast Kay's life and expectations with Michael's, and to underscore (I believe) her growing disillusionment with him (by GFIII she calls him a "common Mafia hood"). One little detail: when Kay is stopped from grocery shopping, she's driving a '57 Buick Special station wagon. If she were the show-off type, she would have owned the Roadmaster version of the Buick, or a Chrysler New Yorker wagon--both of which were more expensive. And since it was already 1959, she would would have felt "poor" driving a two-year-old car.
By contrast: Michael is driven back to the compound after Havana in a '58 Chrysler Imperial Crown Ghia limo--one of only about a dozen that were custom-made that year by Carozzeria Ghia of Turin, Italy. At $13k, it was the most expensive American car of that model year. No one could accuse him of living under his means.
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