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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Link: http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/13/slain-hit-man-could-be-message-from-montreal-mobsters#Excerpts: Slain hit man could be message from Montreal mobsters ROB LAMBERTI, SPECIAL TO THE TORONTO SUN FIRST POSTED: SATURDAY, JULY 13, 2013 07:00 PM EDT | UPDATED: SATURDAY, JULY 13, 2013 07:46 PM EDT TORONTO - Police attribute at least five hits to Calabrian mob assassin Salvatore “Sam” Calautti. More than likely, the man who owned the Cinquelire restaurant on Dufferin St. in Toronto is probably behind even more, say police. The 41-year-old father of three children was violent, enjoyed inflicting pain and made a lot of money for his bosses. “Him? There’s five (hits) that we know of, probably more,” said a police source. “You can probably even double the number. “He was very unique, a one-of-kind type of guy,” the source said. “That was their own words. That’s their own words, of the gangsters, that he was one of a kind. He was a difficult guy to control, difficult guy to manage. But … he’s the type of guy who makes a lot of money.” And the totals on how many people Calautti assaulted, shot, or tortured during his violent reign of terror? “Hundreds,” the officer said. But the question that is on police investigators’ minds is if the slaying of Calautti and his associate James Tusek, 35, could be the mark of Montreal mob chieftain Vito Rizzuto reclaiming his command over the Ontario underworld. [snip] But now police wonder if the murder of Calautti early Friday outside a Vaughan banquet hall is Rizzuto exacting vengeance for the slayings of his father Nicolo, his son Nick and other important members of his organization. [snip] Calautti, who is close to people on the ‘Ndrangheta’s Camera di Controlo, is also believed to be involved in the slaying of Rizzuto’s father Nicolo. [snip] Police sources say if Calautti’s slaying is linked to Montreal, then the motive is vengeance. But did Calautti’s murder harbour a second message from Montreal, urging Ontario’s Calabrian mob leaders to abandon any thought of rebellion and to toe the line? “You have to consider it,” said an investigator. “You have to consider the drug rip angle, it’s hard to say. With (Calautti), he was doing robberies, he was doing drug rips, he was borrowing money and never paying (back). The suspect list is a cast of thousands, and they’re all plausible.”
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Article excerpts below are in relation to the recent murders of Salvatore Calautti and James Tusek in Vaughan (just north of Toronto); these excerpts also touch on the GTA-Montreal angle to the story. Link: http://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/3897956-vaughan-double-homicide-tips-trickle-in-policeExcerpts: Vaughan double homicide tips trickle in: policeBy Jeremy Grimaldi Vaughan CitizenJuly 18, 2013 Limited public response in regards to a suspected mob hit last Friday in Vaughan is complicating York Regional Police’s investigation and is igniting potential conflict between the Calabrian and Sicilian mafia in Vaughan. The double homicide’s case manager, Det. Dave MacDonald, said police have had information passed along, but intelligence tips have been few and far between in relation to the brazen double shooting of Salvatore “Sam” Calautti, 41, the man suspected of killing reputed Montreal’s Sicilian mob boss’ Vito Rizzuto’s father, Nick, in 2010. [snip] “To say there’s been no co-operation is not accurate,” he said. “We’ve received limited co-operation from the public and from witnesses.” [snip] Meanwhile, officers continue to comb through video surveillance that has been seized from the bloody murder scene, a mere 250 metres from police headquarters, in which both men’s bodies and a BMW X6 they were driving were riddled with gunshots. He also admitted he is speaking to police agencies from Montreal and elsewhere in regards to Mr. Calautti’s past, which he compared to drinking water from a fire hydrant. “There’s so much information coming in, you need to separate the good from the bad,” he said. [snip] Det. MacDonald would not confirm if the investigation is an international one or not at the moment. [snip] Earlier this year, a York senior intelligence officer said that while Vaughan and York Region has a mafia presence from all three major Italian gangs, including the Cosa Nostra from Sicily, the ’Ndrangheta from Calabria and the Camorra from Naples, he added that mob figures in the region have been known to collaborate, avoiding bloodshed and police preoccupation. He added there is evidence of representatives from different factions meeting to resolve problems. “I can’t say they’re all working together, because they are competing, but we do know various groups are working together on various enterprises,” the detective said. “They ... understand that if there happens to be a street war, our attention will be focused more on them.” However, this double murder may prove the opening salvo in the GTA, a spillover from the gangland war that has ravaged Montreal.... — With files from Toronto Star
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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This is probably my favorite mafia family to read about. I too wondered if Vito would live coming out of the can and then he just simply takes over yet again. I'd like to see Raynald get out of jail and see what happens :-) I hope Vito makes it and rebuilds the Rizzuto family. I know there is more bloodshed to come from his side. It's a matter of timing. Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission?
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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I read in French paper some time back that Vito had given a pass to both Desjardins and DeVito. Hard for me to believe this, but anyway... Then, DeVito died a week or so ago in prison.
I'm still waiting for some type of autopsy report to surface. Does anyone have any updated info on how he passed away?
DiMaulo was a message to Desjardins. Now with DeVito gone, no one can be too sure this initial 'report' was correct.
In any case, Vito's still the King in Quebec. Slowly, things have been going back to the way they were before Vito went to prison. The new movements going on in Ontario will now be interesting to follow.
Not just getting my stripes, something I can't talk about. Something that was ruining my whole life and he made it right. For what I owe him, I would follow that man into hell.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission? Commission? What Commission. Canada doesnt give a f**k about NY. Montreal has serious links to South America and the homeland. NY has no commission and no say. Sal Montagna, acting, was clipped. That's how much respect Vito has for NY. What are/have/can they do about it? Nothing. NY's got as much influence in Montreal as it has a commission.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission? Commission? What Commission. Canada doesnt give a f**k about NY. Montreal has serious links to South America and the homeland. NY has no commission and no say. Sal Montagna, acting, was clipped up here. That's how much respect Vito has for NY. What are/have/can they do about it? Nothing. NY's got as much influence in Montreal as it has a commission. The Commission today The Commission is still reported to exist today, though its current membership is composed of only the bosses of the Five Families and the Chicago Outfit. Its activities, like much of the Mafia in general, have receded from public view as a matter of necessity. Because of law enforcement scrutiny, the five New York City bosses have not met since Paul Castellano was killed in 1985.[2] However, while the Commission no longer meets in person, they still must approve major actions. Mini meetings between two (or more) bosses still take place.[2] In 2000, representatives of the Five Families (three bosses, one consigliere and a member of the Genovese ruling panel) did meet.[2] Instead of a meeting of bosses, underlings such as underbosses or captains meet secretly to discuss the business and govern. Does this help answer your comments smart guy?
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission? Commission? What Commission. Canada doesnt give a f**k about NY. Montreal has serious links to South America and the homeland. NY has no commission and no say. Sal Montagna, acting, was clipped up here. That's how much respect Vito has for NY. What are/have/can they do about it? Nothing. NY's got as much influence in Montreal as it has a commission. The Commission today The Commission is still reported to exist today, though its current membership is composed of only the bosses of the Five Families and the Chicago Outfit. Its activities, like much of the Mafia in general, have receded from public view as a matter of necessity. Because of law enforcement scrutiny, the five New York City bosses have not met since Paul Castellano was killed in 1985.[2] However, while the Commission no longer meets in person, they still must approve major actions. Mini meetings between two (or more) bosses still take place.[2] In 2000, representatives of the Five Families (three bosses, one consigliere and a member of the Genovese ruling panel) did meet.[2] Instead of a meeting of bosses, underlings such as underbosses or captains meet secretly to discuss the business and govern. Does this help answer your comments smart guy? Well set aside the 2000 meeting for second, if theres a conflicts of interest between two families and they need to meet to settle it or if therrs a situation where two families have a joint business venture and work together could that really be considered a commision? Some experts say the commision ceased to exist after the big case in 1985, others argue that it stopped being that long before that. Remember the purpose of the commision was to be the ruling body of the entire american mafia. And a need for such body just doesnt exist today.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission? Commission? What Commission. Canada doesnt give a f**k about NY. Montreal has serious links to South America and the homeland. NY has no commission and no say. Sal Montagna, acting, was clipped. That's how much respect Vito has for NY. What are/have/can they do about it? Nothing. NY's got as much influence in Montreal as it has a commission. The Commission today The Commission is still reported to exist today, though its current membership is composed of only the bosses of the Five Families and the Chicago Outfit. Its activities, like much of the Mafia in general, have receded from public view as a matter of necessity. Because of law enforcement scrutiny, the five New York City bosses have not met since Paul Castellano was killed in 1985.[2] However, while the Commission no longer meets in person, they still must approve major actions. Mini meetings between two (or more) bosses still take place.[2] In 2000, representatives of the Five Families (three bosses, one consigliere and a member of the Genovese ruling panel) did meet.[2] Instead of a meeting of bosses, underlings such as underbosses or captains meet secretly to discuss the business and govern. Does this help answer your comments smart guy? Chicago is part of the 'current commission'? Mate you're off your head. You're confusing a 'commission' with a 'sit-down' which is used to resolve inter family disputes. There hasn't been anything resembling a commission for over a decade. Let alone Chicago participating. Give me a break.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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I read in French paper some time back that Vito had given a pass to both Desjardins and DeVito. Hard for me to believe this, but anyway... In what paper did you read this? Can you provide a link to that article? Sonny, I knew someone would ask!! The article is in French, from La Presse: http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/dossie...-a-montreal.phpIt basically states that in March, Vito asked for a "calm" to the turmoil. That is of course after the DiMaulo and Gosselin murders. It states that "Or, La Presse a appris que ces individus se sont fait dire, au cours des dernières semaines, qu'ils n'avaient plus rien à craindre et qu'ils pouvaient revenir dans la métropole." Which means "These individuals <DeVito and Desjardins> who previously had a price on their heads, having nothing to worry about upon their return from prison." What do you think now that DeVito is gone?
Not just getting my stripes, something I can't talk about. Something that was ruining my whole life and he made it right. For what I owe him, I would follow that man into hell.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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I've read that article. Renaud was talking about Desjardins' and De Vito's remaining lieutenants on the street who were given a pass and that they could return to the city safely. Recent articles on Giuseppe De Vito's death have corroborated that there was still a contract on his head. And it would be extremely unlikely that Desjardin's will get a pass, if not only because he might be looking to settle scores himself for the murder of Di Maulo and Gosselin. And the Bonannos probably want Desjardins dead as well for the murder of Montagna. I thought it was weird when I read it. I was like, wtf would those guys get passes for?? I didn't believe it then. And I agree with your Desjardins assessment. Too many ppl would want him dead right now. He can only pray he has as many lives as Tony Magi 
Not just getting my stripes, something I can't talk about. Something that was ruining my whole life and he made it right. For what I owe him, I would follow that man into hell.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Do you guys think Vito will get any support from the commission? Commission? What Commission. Canada doesnt give a f**k about NY. Montreal has serious links to South America and the homeland. NY has no commission and no say. Sal Montagna, acting, was clipped. That's how much respect Vito has for NY. What are/have/can they do about it? Nothing. NY's got as much influence in Montreal as it has a commission. The Commission today The Commission is still reported to exist today, though its current membership is composed of only the bosses of the Five Families and the Chicago Outfit. Its activities, like much of the Mafia in general, have receded from public view as a matter of necessity. Because of law enforcement scrutiny, the five New York City bosses have not met since Paul Castellano was killed in 1985.[2] However, while the Commission no longer meets in person, they still must approve major actions. Mini meetings between two (or more) bosses still take place.[2] In 2000, representatives of the Five Families (three bosses, one consigliere and a member of the Genovese ruling panel) did meet.[2] Instead of a meeting of bosses, underlings such as underbosses or captains meet secretly to discuss the business and govern. Does this help answer your comments smart guy? Chicago is part of the 'current commission'? Mate you're off your head. You're confusing a 'commission' with a 'sit-down' which is used to resolve inter family disputes. There hasn't been anything resembling a commission for over a decade. Let alone Chicago participating. Give me a break. Chicago hasn't been part of the Commission for decades. As for New York, it depends on how you define the Commission. Even by the loosest standards, the last known meeting was in 2000.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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I think he would have been able to do the same even if Raynald was out of the can. Probably, because the coalition that was attempting to take over was doomed the moment Montagna got clipped. Montagna was the link between New York and Montreal and possibly Ontario as well. I think the coalition attempting the take over was doomed before Montagna got clipped. Attempted hit on Desjardins shows they were already locking horns
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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I think he would have been able to do the same even if Raynald was out of the can. Probably, because the coalition that was attempting to take over was doomed the moment Montagna got clipped. Montagna was the link between New York and Montreal and possibly Ontario as well. I think the coalition attempting the take over was doomed before Montagna got clipped. Attempted hit on Desjardins shows they were already locking horns In any case, the coalition lost the support from Ontario and New York and that support was essential. They'd shown to be incapable to lead as they couldn't resolve their differences and come to an agreement. That is when the table began to turn in favor of Rizzuto, because he was probably seen as the only one who could restore order. Otherwise he would have probably been a dead man walking.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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And someone mentioned Magi, man talk about 9 lives! Even under heavy guard I wonder if they'll catch him sooner or later? It seems pretty certain he was involved with Nick Jr. or am I thinking someone else? No, you're right. Magi and Ducarme were linked to the Nick Jr. murder. I wonder if Magi living life looking over his, and his family's shoulders, is even more painful than (finally) getting clipped... I find it incredible both are still breathing by now.
Not just getting my stripes, something I can't talk about. Something that was ruining my whole life and he made it right. For what I owe him, I would follow that man into hell.
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Re: Suspects in the murder?
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Hi , This is my first post .... In from Montréal and they recently discovered some suspicous activites around Tony Magi house ... I am 100 % sure that this piece of shit is responsible for Vito Rizzuto son murder . He is living on borrowed time but if I were V. Rizz himself I would pay off his bodyguards a big sum of money to set up that fucking asshole . Greetings from Montréal .
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