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Toodoped: MeyerLansky is GBB's new "50 Cent" lol Cheers buddy and stay safe 
MeyerLansky: haha thank you buddy ! i hope i will go home today, the doctors will give an answer later this day
Toodoped: I wish you the best buddy and dont forget, what doesnt kill you, makes you stronger 
MeyerLansky: indeed thank you buddy ! all the best to you too !
Toodoped: Fuck the ScottB & Button/Zipper Pants sites and fuck their paywalls. This forum gives you everything for free and so best wishes and good health to both JGeoff and TB!
Toodoped: Cheers and stay tuned for more free information.
Toodoped: Cant believe that some posters need to open three different threads so they can advertise their projects, and also talk to themselves with the help of different accounts. What is the world coming to?!
Toodoped: whoomp there it is! whoomp there it is! lol
Toodoped: a bird told me that the zipper pants site is slowly going down lol lol lol
Toodoped: The best fun for me is being the puppeteer of a complete idiot lol lol
Toodoped: ...and screw all paywalls and paying sites. They wont give you shit
Toodoped: Someone needs to unzip lots of zipper pants, so she or it can give birth to the Button Guys lol lol
Toodoped: I said I creep and I crawl and I creep and I crawl And I creep and I crawl creep creep lol
Toodoped: Lots of "amnesia"...some people are posting the same stuff over and over, and every time they are happy like small kids lol
Toodoped: a small reminder...screw all paywalls!
Toodoped: Anyone heard from @BigTuna? He is absent for quite some time...I hope is ok
Toodoped: Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
Toodoped: Thanks buddy! We should continue fighting against these lying paying sites and to protect everyone on this forum, especially the younger generation or posters.
Toodoped: these days lots of people that I know lost their families and everything they had because its legit and even youngsters can chip in
Toodoped: Same as the mob paying sites...ppl pay for "Disneyland" and wiki mob stuff, something which they can find it on their own with a simple google search
VanillaLimeCoke: Lousy school violence these days. Not even a 6th of the way through September and we've already had a psychotic violent school shooting.
Toodoped: Word. Few days ago, over here, they caught one teenager with a gun and more than 60 bullets, while going to school. I wonder what was his plan ?!
Toodoped: Damn....the retard slowly became a stalker and he's following me whenever I make a post so he can bump up his own $0,5 "projects" lol lol "IT" is finished and I love it lol
Toodoped: still talking to yourself, a stupido?! lol lol
Toodoped: hahahahahaha I can do it all day long
Toodoped: Cant believe this shit...im off to find some real pussy
Toodoped: aaaaand....the retarded stalker is back again
Toodoped: For those who enjoyed the "TD's Free Outfit Articles 2023/24" thread, well thanks to @TB for making it a sticky on the first page in the OC forum so everyone can enjoy it. Again, I want to personally say thanks to TB, JGeoff and the whole GBB forum. Salut
VanillaLimeCoke: I can’t take it anymore. Everything has gotta change. Or at least a lot.
Toodoped: Screw the world bro...the main thing today is to take care of you and yours.
VanillaLimeCoke: I’m hoping and praying that 2025 will be so much better. …. for real …. Too
Giacomo_Vacari: Damn, he is posting the same things over and over, nothing new. Watch out the flu is bad this year. January 20th Trump gets sworn in, and hopefully turn things around.
VanillaLimeCoke: Yeah, but they’re already planning things so he can’t turn them around
VanillaLimeCoke: Biden’s pardened over 8000 people, most of which were issued in the last 2-3 months
hoodlum: Yes, most likely 2 piss off that crybaby & compulsive liar now sadly in office.
Jason1969: Hey! After applying months ago, I finally got my button and was accepted as a member!
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
[Re: Danito]
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12/16/10 11:58 AM
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what kind of orders would Vito have given after the hospital attack, if he could have talked to Tom or Sonny? Would he have ordered to launch a press campaign against McCluskey?
This is an impossible question to answer because the circumstances were that Vito was critically wounded and unable to act, Sollozzo was going to try to kill him again, and Sollozzo had a New York police captain as his body guard. So under THOSE circumstances Vito could have done nothing but be semi conscious in the hospital. The whole point is Vito could not be in this situation and be able to decide anything.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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If Vito had been well enough to take command after the shooting and hospital attempt, I believe he would have tried to find a solution short of all-out war. His prestige, political clout and diplomatic skills--coupled with the fact that the head of the largest and most powerful family in NYC had survived and was in charge--might have forced a solution short of war. I'll guess that he'd have decreed that Sollozzo was to be killed--perhaps by the Tattaglias, since they vouched for him--and that the Tattaglias would have to pay an indemnity to him. But I'm sure Vito would want to limit killing because the more deaths, the more resentment, the more thirst for vengeance.
BTW: I've often posted that tipping the newspapers to Mac's corruption and his relationship with Sol would have provided a nonviolent solution when Vito was out of commission. The police commissioner would have had to provide uniformed protection to Vito in hospital, and would probably have suspended Mac "pending investigation." Sol would be hunted down and either jailed or deported. Vito's political muscle might have been used to either have Mac dismissed from the force, or prosecuted. There would have been no Five Families War of 1946--and no GF Trilogy.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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12/16/10 04:45 PM
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If Vito had been well enough to take command after the shooting and hospital attempt, I believe he would have tried to find a solution short of all-out war. His prestige, political clout and diplomatic skills--coupled with the fact that the head of the largest and most powerful family in NYC had survived and was in charge--might have forced a solution short of war. I'll guess that he'd have decreed that Sollozzo was to be killed--perhaps by the Tattaglias, since they vouched for him--and that the Tattaglias would have to pay an indemnity to him. But I'm sure Vito would want to limit killing because the more deaths, the more resentment, the more thirst for vengeance.
BTW: I've often posted that tipping the newspapers to Mac's corruption and his relationship with Sol would have provided a nonviolent solution when Vito was out of commission. The police commissioner would have had to provide uniformed protection to Vito in hospital, and would probably have suspended Mac "pending investigation." Sol would be hunted down and either jailed or deported. Vito's political muscle might have been used to either have Mac dismissed from the force, or prosecuted. There would have been no Five Families War of 1946--and no GF Trilogy. What Michael saw was it was "key" for Sollozzo to kill Vito. If that is the case Vito indeed would want him out of the way. While I agree Vito would have done whatever it takes to avoid a war, keep in mind that by the time it was decided that Michel would kill Sollozzo, Luca Brasi was already dead. Further, while Vito may have demanded the Tatts kill Sol to make things even, I am not so sure they could do it. Sol was working for Barz, not Tatt, and Barz with his outsized ambition may have pushed for a war...especially one between the Corleones and the Tatts with him on the sidelines if that was possible.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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12/27/10 11:05 AM
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With all due respect, the Don was slippin'. Could they have done that ten years earlier?
Sanitashun? Ah tole joo to tell dem joo was in a sanatorium. Not sanitashun.
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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05/06/11 10:09 AM
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Vito brands Sonny a 'bad don' but I think Sonny did the best he could, he didnt retaliate the second he heard about the shooting, he waited, he discussed, he found out who the traitor was in his family and had him killed - as Vito would have done, and he took Bruno out in part for trying to off Vito a second time, but also for hitting Luca Brasi...would Vito truly have not responded in kind under those circumstances? A man that one shot a man in the mouth simply because he demanded $200 off him?
Sonny - Well then, business will have to suffer, all right? And listen, do me a favor, Tom. No more advice on how to patch things up, just help me win, please
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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05/06/11 11:09 AM
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Vito brands Sonny a 'bad don' but I think Sonny did the best he could, he didnt retaliate the second he heard about the shooting, he waited, he discussed, he found out who the traitor was in his family and had him killed - as Vito would have done, and he took Bruno out in part for trying to off Vito a second time, but also for hitting Luca Brasi...would Vito truly have not responded in kind under those circumstances? A man that one shot a man in the mouth simply because he demanded $200 off him? It's unclear how much Vito knows of the process that led to Michael's killing of Sollozzo and McCluskey, and it's unclear what makes Vito brand Sonny a "bad Don." Hovwever, it seems like Sonny's desire to kill Sollozzo is the right move for the wrong reasons. There's no indication that Sonny thinks strategically or looks at the big picutre. He certainly doesn't seem like the type to keep his enemies closer. Sonny is willing to let business suffer to get revenge and his instinct is to forego a peaceful solution on principle alone. All in all, I'd say indications are that Sonny was bad Don.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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05/06/11 11:17 AM
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So didnt Vito risk everything, his life? the ability of his friend Tommasino to walk...just to get revenge on Ciccio?
Sonny - Well then, business will have to suffer, all right? And listen, do me a favor, Tom. No more advice on how to patch things up, just help me win, please
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
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So didnt Vito risk everything, his life? the ability of his friend Tommasino to walk...just to get revenge on Ciccio? Good point. But I'd bring up the business/personal distinction. I think Vito would say that the revenge on Don Ciccio was personal. But he'd agree with Tom that the Sollozzo incident was business, and pure vengeance has no place in the realm of business.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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Re: "It was Michael who killed Sollozzo" - Sigh
[Re: Danito]
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05/06/11 05:29 PM
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Tommasino was absolutely needed for the meeting with Ciccio, how else could an appointment with Ciccio be secured without the facade of Don Tommasino wanting his blessing for Genco?
As for the personal/business distinction, I defy anyone on earth not to take two assasination attempts on their father personally.
Sonny - Well then, business will have to suffer, all right? And listen, do me a favor, Tom. No more advice on how to patch things up, just help me win, please
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