I always wondered how the friendship between Gotti and Ruggerio was, were they childhood friends? It seems they were real close.

Do you think Gotti would whack out Ruggerio if ordered to?

I dont know about that, but in the mafia most murders are done by the victims closest friends. So dont count on any friendship within the mafia.

Gotti and Angelo were childhood friends. Angelo was actually the nephew of Neil Dellacroce so that is one reason Gotti became close to neil. Even though Angelo was the closest to Gotti for most of his life their freindship soured at the end because of Angelo's trial probelms. Gotti got more pissed at Angelo because Angelo was the main reason why Gotti's crew was in hot water with Big Paul over drug trafficking because of his big mouth. also by 1989 Gotti had enough of Angelo and actually was about to order his execution but Gravano told Gotti that it wasn't even worth it because Angelo had cancer and was near death anyway. Also sammy said that him and Gene gotti had to drag Gotti to his wake so by the end Gotti didn't care about Angelo anymore

Really? I always thought that was Gotti's only real friend since they knew eachother in Childhood. I never thought Gotti wanted to whack out Angelo. I guess these guys are more evil than I thought. I can't wait to read Sammy the Bull's book Witness to the mob. Anyone know when hes getting out?

Thanks guys.

They were longtime friends but I in the mafia once you become a problem your life isn't worth much to the higher ups even is they happen to be your best friend

In the book "Gotti Rise and Fall" and the Movie, they make it seem like they were close all the way to the end with Gotti still visiting Angelo regularly on his death bed, even feeding him ice cream.

That Gotti movie was a very fictional portrayal. In real life Gotti wanted nothing to do with angelo even when he was dying. In fact His told his son not to visit Angelo even though Junior Gotti considered angelo an uncle. when Gotti found out his son was disobeying his orders he gave his son a beating.

Whats your source on this? Or did you just hear it from someone on the boards?

Were you there? Did you see John beat his son fro visiting Ange?

No offence but I'm more inclinde to believe Jerry Capeci than you.

I can believe what JCrusher said - its the sort of thing John "I'm Mr Wonderful" Gotti would have done

Ok smartass. I wasn't there. I didn't hear it from someone from the boards. I reasearch it through things called books. also through FBI agents who say it since they had surveillance basically through his entire pathetic reign as boss. I'm sorry to tell you that John and Angelo didn't play pattycake while he was sick. Angelo said on FBI tapes that he considered John a "sick motherfucker" and a loudmouth. So both of them even though they were friends they could turn on eachother when they were pissed. Now John Junior was upset at Angelo's death since he considered him an uncle. I mean Sammy Gravano said that him and Gene Gotti had to literally drag John to Angelo's funeral. Does that sound like somone who is mouring the loss of his friend? So I'm not saying I know more than everyone but I'm just answering a question. Sorry to sound pissed but if you act like a bitch i'm gonna treat you like one

I hit a nerve I see. Well since you claim to read "books" on the subject, try "Gotti: Rise and Fall" by Capeci. He says they remained close. Again, I am more inclined to believe what he says than yourself using Sammy Gravano as a source. Maybe they did hate each other at the end, but I have read a book by a credible author who says otherwise.

First off u didn't hit a nerve. I dont mind different opinions at all. I think the way you wrote sounded a little snobbish but if i'm wrong I apologize. I have read the book a couple of times. also FBI agents like Bruce Mouw who was the head of the Gambino squad who monitered surveillance has said that gotti was pissed at angelo. also other FBI agents involved in the gotti investigation has said something similar. Jerry Capeci knows his stuff because I have read Gotti rise and fall as well as Murder machine which is about the Demeo crew. However, he is still a journalist so i take the word of FBI agents who actually heard Gotti's conversations.

From what I've read Gotti and Ruggiero were definitely on the outs. I think Gotti had enough of his big mouth and the troubles he brought. John Gotti the son supposedly stayed close with Ruggiero and his family. Anyone know if Ruggiero sons were made? I read the Mikey "Scars" DiLeonardo testimony and he talked about John Ruggiero being proposed, I think he is Angelo's son, and his other son is named Angelo also. I think Ruggiero and Michael Paradiso were behind the attempted hit on Anthony Casso, which I don't think Gotti would have sanctioned, so Ruggiero was causing all problems all over the place.

The same could be said about Gotti with his flamboyant media attention seeking ways.
I bet the old Gambino soldiers thought they were locked in a nightmare when this clown took over!

You are right on the money Gerry, Gotti had enough of Angelo who almost got him in big trouble with Paul as well as the blown hit on Anthony Casso. It's ironic that gotti had enough of Angelo's big mouth when it was Gotti's big mouth that landed him in jail for life

Angelo was shelved, so that alone speaks volumes. I think he was also pushed for Robert Dibernardo to be killed because he owed him 250K, but said it was for different reasons.

I've said before here John Gotti wasn't qualified to run a Burger King, let alone a highly successful criminal enterprise. At that time there were a lot of sophisticated big money making criminals in the Gambino family, to have Gotti controlling them is a bad joke. If they didn't fix the trials, Gotti probably wouldn't have lasted a year on the streets as the boss. Then he handed over control to his son and brother, two more idiots!

Ya Gotti becoming the boss ended the Gambino Family. A lot of People might not want to admit it but Sammy Gravano was the main reason Gotti lasted as long as he did, by paying off jurors, his money from construction, and his ability to commit murders. Either gravano or Frank decicco would have been a better choice.