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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Jay123]
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05/09/11 03:09 PM
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Depends on the business. These days, I doubt the mob sends in someone to collect cash every month for "protection." Most likely they'll force the small business owner to buy "goods and services" from the mob at inflated prices. In one of my old neighborhoods in Brooklyn, the local mob crew operated a "burglar alarm company." They installed a burglar alarm in the business storefront (that usually didn't work), and claimed that "foot patrols" of "private security" would check the storefront "hourly" after business hours. They charged a monthly fee for those "services." If the business didn't pay, they had an unusual rash of broken windows, burglaries, etc. But the most profitable ones are those described by Ivy, such as garbage collection; or the famous "concrete club." The mob creates an "association" of garbage haulers or concrete suppliers, and charges each "member" a "fee" to join. If they join, they pass on the mob "fee" to their customers. If not...  Keep in mind, the "association members" benefit: the "association" assigns routes or building sites, protecting them from competition.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/09/11 03:37 PM
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Keep in mind, the "association members" benefit: the "association" assigns routes or building sites, protecting them from competition. The funny thing is that quite a few business owners have benefited greatly by paying the mob. That is especially true for those who are more than willing to work with them. However, it all depends on who you are "with". If you're gonna go with the Colombos, I wouldn't count on getting a discount at your favorite titty bar. You might get a massage from Sean Persico, but more than that and you're gonna have to pay extra.
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: VinnyGorgeous]
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05/09/11 04:08 PM
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phatmatress
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Keep in mind, the "association members" benefit: the "association" assigns routes or building sites, protecting them from competition. it all depends on who you are "with". If you're gonna go with the Colombos, I wouldn't count on getting a discount at your favorite titty bar. You might get a massage from Sean Persico, but more than that and you're gonna have to pay extra. yeah i wonder what the colombos would really have to offer to anyone now a days?
I hate Dicknoses!!!!!!
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/09/11 07:49 PM
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Depends on the business. These days, I doubt the mob sends in someone to collect cash every month for "protection." Most likely they'll force the small business owner to buy "goods and services" from the mob at inflated prices. In one of my old neighborhoods in Brooklyn, the local mob crew operated a "burglar alarm company." They installed a burglar alarm in the business storefront (that usually didn't work), and claimed that "foot patrols" of "private security" would check the storefront "hourly" after business hours. They charged a monthly fee for those "services." If the business didn't pay, they had an unusual rash of broken windows, burglaries, etc. But the most profitable ones are those described by Ivy, such as garbage collection; or the famous "concrete club." The mob creates an "association" of garbage haulers or concrete suppliers, and charges each "member" a "fee" to join. If they join, they pass on the mob "fee" to their customers. If not...  Keep in mind, the "association members" benefit: the "association" assigns routes or building sites, protecting them from competition. Depends on the business in new england luigi manoccio was just indicted for extorting monthly payments from 3 diffrent strip clubs
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: thebarber]
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05/09/11 09:27 PM
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Yes. Strip clubs, "gentlement's clubs," sex shops, and other sketchy businesses are favorite mob targets. Chances are, even if the operator is "legitimate," there are mob ties somewhere down the line in his business: the girls have records or were/are protected by mob-connected pimps; the owner gets untaxed boozze from some outfit that pays off the mob; the sex shop buys porno videos from a mob distributor, etc.
Any business that preys on people's vices is fair game for the mob.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Jay123]
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05/10/11 07:47 AM
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tt120
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i remember hearing not too long ago about some Colombo associates (connected with Franzese) trying to shake down this hole-in-the-wall bar near my girlfriend's apartment. apparently they were in there one night for a drink, saw how busy the place was, and came back to extort the owner. the owner even said he was down to pay for protection but they demanded too much money, tried driving a screwdriver through the guys hand, and he went to the cops.
Also the logic behind that is wonderful:
"Hey this place is pretty neat - I'm having a good time. Look how busy it is. What an asshole the owner must be - he owes us something..."
Even Castellano was on tape before his final trip to Sparks complaining about how much money Sparks must be making because it's so busy, and they won't even give him a free meal when he goes in. LOL
That's the one common trait that I think these guys have that most people don't - the extreme sense of unfounded entitlement, and the nerve to act on it.
Last edited by tt120; 05/10/11 07:49 AM.
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: GaryH]
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05/10/11 06:03 PM
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. . . like all wiseguys he didnt like parting with his money That's the understatement of the year  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Jay123]
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05/12/11 01:07 PM
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Could anyone have rackets? Lets say your local drug dealing teen could walk into a place what isnt mob run and say i want $100 a week or else this place goes up in flames? It seems a daft question but its reality How pathetic does said teen look?
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Jay123]
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05/12/11 04:47 PM
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Could anyone have rackets? Lets say your local drug dealing teen could walk into a place what isnt mob run and say i want $100 a week or else this place goes up in flames? It seems a daft question but its reality Of course he could but unless the drug dealing teen was connected then at any time a mob guy could simply take the racket off him
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Re: Rackets...
[Re: Jay123]
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05/13/11 12:59 PM
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Could anyone have rackets? Lets say your local drug dealing teen could walk into a place what isnt mob run and say i want $100 a week or else this place goes up in flames? It seems a daft question but its reality That kind of shakedown is usually organized by teen gangs, rather than by individuals. In the Chinatowns of various American cities, gangs of Chinese and Vietnamese teens regularly shake down restaurants and other businesses--when they're not killing each other. In the early years of the 20th Century, individuals shook down small businesses in ethnic neighborhoods by claiming to be members of a criminal enterprise in the old country; i.e., "The Black Hand," "Die Bruderbond," etc. We saw an example in "Godfather Part II." Fanucci was known as "The Black Hand" and shook down Sr. Abbandando's grocery and other businesses. But after young Vito Corleone killed him, nobody came to take his place, and nobody sought vengeance on his killer. Fanucci had been acting on his own, invoking "The Black Hand" to scare people into paying him off.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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