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Re: Was Stanfa really THAT incompetant as a boss?
[Re: Mussolini14]
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05/28/11 02:59 PM
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Mussolini14
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Is Veasey at least half Italian?
Phillykid- was Veasey really made by Stanfa?
BTW- In every Mob Talk Episode featuring Stanfa and in several other videos he is always seen with a huge gorilla of a man, who looks like he could rest a glass or a pop can on his chest standing up. Any idea who this guy is? Is he still around?
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Re: Was Stanfa really THAT incompetant as a boss?
[Re: PhillyKid]
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05/28/11 04:38 PM
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Veasey was never a capo, what are you smoking? Veasey reported to Martines. The only person who's ever referred to him as a capo is Dave Schratweiser, but he calls everyone a capo or captain.
The Capos under Stanfa were Luigi "Gino" Tripodi, Salvatore "Shotsie" Sparacio, Joseph "The Nodder" Sodano and Vincent "Al Pajamas" Pagano. Veasey's mother also happened to be italian.
Stanfa should have appeased the Merlino/Ciancaglini faction as they were already operating before Stanfa became boss. He made a bad move making Joey Ciancaglini the underboss considering he had a falling out with his brother and Merlino in the 80s. Was this Dave Schratweiser? Link. I remember hearing him referred to as a capo again in a news report where he talks about his life after the mob and torturing a guy with a power drill. To be honest, I don't know why they even let him talk about that on the news, or if it is even true, I suspect it's exaggerated. Although I could be wrong, I have a habit of mixing up my sources. This is just a personal theory about where Stanfa went wrong, none of it proven. Stanfa's other mistake was even making Merlino to begin with. Maybe Stanfa thought made ceremonies are a simple reward for good work or good earning, and nothing more. But of course, there's a reason you don't go around inducting cowboys in to the family. As a made man, Merlino could technically start stepping on associate's toes, he could technically become a boss. That was good enough for him, we all know what happened.
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Re: Was Stanfa really THAT incompetant as a boss?
[Re: PhillyKid]
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11/21/15 08:11 PM
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Moe_Tilden
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Veasey was never a capo, what are you smoking? Veasey reported to Martines. The only person who's ever referred to him as a capo is Dave Schratweiser, but he calls everyone a capo or captain.
The Capos under Stanfa were Luigi "Gino" Tripodi, Salvatore "Shotsie" Sparacio, Joseph "The Nodder" Sodano and Vincent "Al Pajamas" Pagano. Veasey's mother also happened to be italian.
Stanfa should have appeased the Merlino/Ciancaglini faction as they were already operating before Stanfa became boss. He made a bad move making Joey Ciancaglini the underboss considering he had a falling out with his brother and Merlino in the 80s. Anyone care to elaborate? Plenty of discussion about the Chang's and Merlino's but don't think anyone has explained what they fell out over.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Was Stanfa really THAT incompetant as a boss?
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11/21/15 08:13 PM
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Sergio Battaglia was an american mobster. Born in Italy. Emigrated to America in his teens. Left a well paid job at a car dealership to play mob tough guy and ratted as soon as the going got.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Was Stanfa really THAT incompetant as a boss?
[Re: Mussolini14]
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11/23/15 01:29 AM
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He didn't just up and ask him to kill Merlino. For one, he wasn't in a detox, he reportedly quit cold turkey in '91 while serving a sentence for robbery, assault and possession. And Veasey had a rep of scumbag, but a brutal scumbag who was capable. And Stanfa didn't choose Veasey, he was actually recruited by Stanfa underboss Frank Martines, he was a part of Martines' killing crew, whom held the responsibility of killing Merlino. The group consisted of Phil Colletti, Sal Brunetti, Herb Keller, and Sergio Battaglia, as well as Veasey.
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