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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Smokey_Joe]
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06/04/11 07:42 AM
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If you could make an All star family hypothetically with administration and capos, who would you pick?
Boss- Tony Accardo
Underboss- Neil Dellacroce
Consigliere- Christie Furnari
Capos- Albert Gallo, Jimmy Failla, Neil Migliore, Salvatore Testa
Top soldiers- Roy Demeo, Sam Destefano, Tony Mirra Top I dont know what criteria you are using, it seems to be your favorites which is ok because typically fans vote for their all stars in sports but I dont see some of these guys being an all star: Roy Demeo: Whacked by own family, physcopath, drug dealer, brought a shit ton of heat. I could go on and on and on and on but nuff said MAd Sam: Whacked by own family, same as Demeo, phscopath, and on and on and on Jimmy Brown fialla- Good capo yes but this is the same guy who basically double crossed the Gambino administration Salvie Testa: Whacked by own family Mirra: Responsible for the Donnie Brasco fiasco, if anyone is far from an all star its him. Also whacked by own family. I can see Neil and Accardo being on this list but when your own family whacks you that means they had a reason to do so and you are not an all star.
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08/13/2009-jvanley Spanky Bar, 3rd stool from the left
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Smokey_Joe]
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06/04/11 12:08 PM
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tt120
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the current alleged administration of the Lucchese family is pretty all-star'ish for the modern day. Not enough to keep them out of jail or their names out of indictments, but Miglore, Madonna, Crea, etc... all seem pretty low key, quiet, old timey. I wouldn't be surprised if they surpass the Gambinos as the 2nd most powerful family in New York in the next 5-10 years.
I can't think of a full hypothetical "all star" family but I'd definitely have Joe Todaro Sr. from Buffalo in there somewhere, and maybe John S------- as a soldier or even a Capo over a crew of guys who don't do any wet work - basically a family of a bunch of relatively quiet quai-legitimate earners and some tough, but not deranged soldiers to back them up
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: tiger84]
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06/04/11 11:31 PM
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Anybody who has not served time, been caught or clipped. That would be my all star team.
How many guys is that?
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: TonyG]
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06/05/11 03:47 AM
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Anybody who has not served time, been caught or clipped. That would be my all star team.
How many guys is that? Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese Anyone else?
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Smokey_Joe]
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06/05/11 06:04 AM
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Arrright, Ima geddin-in-on-dis.
The fact of the matter is, anyone who would even make a post asking this question is undoubtedly guilty of mob fanboyism, considering the pain & ache such mobsters cause/caused, & their general inability to conduct themselves in a manner befitting an honest person, ie; one who's fundamental inclination is one at odds with honest existence.
Having said that, I am going to say:
RULING PANEL: Lucky Luciano, Carlo Gambino, Gaetano Lucchese, Anthony Accardo, Angelo Bruno, Santo Trafficante, Carlos Marcello & Joseph Todaro Sr.
CAPOREGIME: Vito Genovese, Joe Bonanno, Joe Colombo, Joe Profaci, Vito Rizzuto, Carmine Galante, Joe Massino, Aniello Migliore, Mike Miranda, Sonny Franzese, Carmine Persico, John Gotti, Joe Ligambi & Joe Todaro Jr, Jack Dragna,
SOLDATI: Under the respective Family of each theoretical Capo Id have pretty much any mobster that distinguished himself amongst the riff-raff of his respective Family; for instance, Id have guys like John Stallupi & Joe Gallo under guys like Franzese & Persico, guys like Jimmy Brown Failla, Roy DeMeo & Joe Arcuri under guys like Gotti, & guys like Joey the Clown & Mad Sam DeStefano under Accardo. My family would be composed of each & evey mobster that made himself known amongstb the general bullshit.
Honestly, I feel kinda embarrassed to have indulged myself in such blatent mob groupie-ness, but funnily enough Im more interested in what people have to say about my choices rather then what they have to say aboutme responding to such a question.
(cough.)
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: IvyLeague]
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06/06/11 01:21 AM
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Jimmy Brown fialla- Good capo yes but this is the same guy who basically double crossed the Gambino administration
That's because he, like Danny Marino, recognized how ridiculous it was for a guy like Gotti to become boss. What does it say when a relatively obscure capo from Queens can whack out the boss and take over the whole operation virtually overnight? Excellent point Ivy - I have wondered how many Gambino's, Genovese and Lucchese guys were saying to themselves, "you have got to be kidding me" when Gotti became boss. Especially the Genovese's - you know they were licking their chops. I believe the wiseguys with half a brain knew Gotti was an idiot, and several of these comments were picked up on FBI bugs. I recall reading after Gotti was convicted that some Genovese guys were captured talking about how good Gotti would be for all the other families.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: IvyLeague]
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06/06/11 09:12 AM
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Jimmy Brown fialla- Good capo yes but this is the same guy who basically double crossed the Gambino administration
That's because he, like Danny Marino, recognized how ridiculous it was for a guy like Gotti to become boss. What does it say when a relatively obscure capo from Queens can whack out the boss and take over the whole operation virtually overnight? Ivy, very good point and to the normal tax paying citizen this makes sense. However in that world you are only as strong as your boss and leadership. Things like that are what has torn LCN apart over the years. We (tax paying citizen) call it Insubordination but for them it can tear down their whole organization. As Dellecrose once said LCN means the boss is the boss is the boss. In the end I guess you could say Jimmy Brown did the right thing as he lasted longer, but I just think what he did goes against everything LCN stands for
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08/13/2009-jvanley Spanky Bar, 3rd stool from the left
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: jvanley]
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06/06/11 04:11 PM
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Ivy, very good point and to the normal tax paying citizen this makes sense. However in that world you are only as strong as your boss and leadership. Things like that are what has torn LCN apart over the years. We (tax paying citizen) call it Insubordination but for them it can tear down their whole organization.
As Dellecrose once said LCN means the boss is the boss is the boss. In the end I guess you could say Jimmy Brown did the right thing as he lasted longer, but I just think what he did goes against everything LCN stands for I think your post above goes to my argument. If the "boss is the boss," as Dellacroce said, Gotti had no business having Castellano killed. Furthermore, if we're going by the book, Castellano was the legitimate head of the Gambino family. Gotti took out a boss without official Commission approval and basically installed himself via intimidation. And all because there was a possibility he could be killed and his crew could be broken up for disobeying the boss about drug dealing. Failla and Marino saw Gotti as an unqualified usurper, so to speak. And as for the "organization is only as strong as the boss" idea, what happened to the Gambinos not long after Gotti took over?
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: VinnyGorgeous]
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06/07/11 01:50 AM
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Boss: Thomas "Tommy Karate" Pitera Underboss: Angelo Bruno. Consigliere: Roy DeMeo.
I like it a little twisted. LOL - thanks for the good belly laugh. Come on Vinny - you are losing your touch! How can you pick Bruno as Underboss in that lineup? I would have guessed you would fill that slot with Nicky Scarfo or Sam DeStefano. We should call this lineup, "the Gang that puts a premium on life".
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Sonny_Black]
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06/07/11 03:15 PM
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Boss: Benjamin "Lefty" Ruggiero Underboss: Joseph D. "Donnie Brasco" Pistone Consigliere: J. Edgar Hoover
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The Gemini twins lol
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: bonanno]
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06/07/11 03:36 PM
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I like to go with old-time Mafia guys:
Don: Charlie Luciano--forceful, visionary, practical, and personally modest. The father of the Commission.
Consigliere: Frank Costello--iron hand in velvet glove. Political powerhouse. Prime Minister to Charlie's President.
Caporegimes: Tony Accardo--muscle and brains, for "traditional" Mob activities (gambling, loan sharking, etc). Carlo Gambino--"newer" activities (construction, securities frauds, labor, etc.).
Crew chiefs: Paul Vario, Vito Genovese. Frank Nitti.
Official Wise Man to the Stars: Meyer Lansky.
Last edited by Turnbull; 06/07/11 03:38 PM.
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: TonyG]
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06/07/11 03:46 PM
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Boss: Thomas "Tommy Karate" Pitera Underboss: Angelo Bruno. Consigliere: Roy DeMeo.
I like it a little twisted. LOL - thanks for the good belly laugh. Come on Vinny - you are losing your touch! How can you pick Bruno as Underboss in that lineup? I would have guessed you would fill that slot with Nicky Scarfo or Sam DeStefano. We should call this lineup, "the Gang that puts a premium on life". Bruno's there for a reason. I was not so much trying to make the best administration, but rather the most twisted one. And Bruno between Pitera and DeMeo would be very interesting. Can you imagine the conversations between these motherfuckers. Excerpts from taped conversations that sadly never took place Pitera: I want that fucking cocksucker dead. His whole fucking family thrown to the piranha tank. Let him watch before I gut that motherfucker. What's a matter Angelo? You don't look so good. DeMeo: Angelo? You need a glass of water or something? What's a matter with you? Angelo: I'll be all right. Just the heat. I sweat in this heat. Pitera: Sweat? You look like a fucking wet t shirt contestant. DeMeo (laughing): He looks like one of my cocksucking victims just before the execution. Angelo: I, I, I just think we need to weigh our options here. Frankie Black has been with us for so long. He loved you Tommy. Pitera (yelling): HE'S A FUCKING RAT. SEE THAT PICTURE. RAT CLOTHES, RAT FACE, RAT NIPPLE RING, RAT SHOES. FUCK HIM ANGELO. HE'S GOING MOTHERFUCKER!!! I'll cut his balls off and eat them in front of Frankie Jr. DeMeo: I wanna eat Frankie Jr.'s eyes out of his fucking skull.
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Turnbull]
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06/07/11 11:36 PM
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I like to go with old-time Mafia guys:
Don: Charlie Luciano--forceful, visionary, practical, and personally modest. The father of the Commission.
Consigliere: Frank Costello--iron hand in velvet glove. Political powerhouse. Prime Minister to Charlie's President.
Caporegimes: Tony Accardo--muscle and brains, for "traditional" Mob activities (gambling, loan sharking, etc). Carlo Gambino--"newer" activities (construction, securities frauds, labor, etc.).
Crew chiefs: Paul Vario, Vito Genovese. Frank Nitti.
Official Wise Man to the Stars: Meyer Lansky. Costello would be the perfect consigliere. I think he wasn't suited to be a boss. He was way too much a "gentlemen" for such a role. If possible I would choose two consiglieres, Costello and Accardo. It's difficult to choose betweem them as both were highly skilled and intelligent. Accardo knew when to be ruthless and Costello had businesses-smarts like no other. Both abilities are important to have for an advisor. Lucky Luciano may not have been the smartest, but he was definitely a boss type. A man's man. He knew how to deal with people and he had an eye for talent; Meyer Lansky. Ad underboss I would choose Joe Bonanno. A guy that was smart enough but probably not that smart to make a succesful move against you. Besides, he was said to be a traditional type who believed in the old ways. As caporegimes I would choose Carlo Gambino, Carmine Lombardozzi, Anthony Scotto, Vincent Alo, Vincent Gigante and probably Tony Salerno. I would never want a guy like Vito Genovese in my family. Too dangerous, untrustworthy, treacherous and incompetent.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: Smokey_Joe]
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06/09/11 10:52 PM
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Boss Carlo Gambino
Underboss Meyer Lanksy
Consiglieri Frank Costello
Capos Tony Accardo - Anthony "Nino" Gaggi - Neil Dellacroce - Vito Genovese - Albert Anastasia
Some Soldiers Ben Siegel - "Crazy Joe" Gallo - Benjamin "Lefty" Ruggiero - Lepke Buchalter - Various members of the infamous Murder Inc.
My first post... LOL
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Re: Mafia "all star" family
[Re: NeriCorleone]
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06/10/11 03:51 AM
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Boss Carlo Gambino
Underboss Meyer Lanksy
Consiglieri Frank Costello
Capos Tony Accardo - Anthony "Nino" Gaggi - Neil Dellacroce - Vito Genovese - Albert Anastasia
Some Soldiers Ben Siegel - "Crazy Joe" Gallo - Benjamin "Lefty" Ruggiero - Lepke Buchalter - Various members of the infamous Murder Inc.
My first post... LOL Lansky cant be in family.... and if u have all this serial killers in family u would be fucked up
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