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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
[Re: ONTARIO613]
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07/15/11 08:31 AM
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aryan brotherhood are a prison gang in the us. the yakuza are a white collar semi legitimate group of men based in japan. so i couldnt see ehere their paths could cross ynless it`s a beef over tattoosv I have to agree. Where is this guy getting his info that they are rivals?
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 05:41 PM
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look again of what i posted And we should believe you because you say so? Link us to the story.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 07:43 PM
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In June of 2007, a group of three Aryan Brotherhood gang members, Thomas Heckman, James Madison and Al Hayrman, stopped for gas at a Texas highway gas station as a dark vehicle pulled in behind them, through the store cameras the dark vehicle can be seen stopping directly behind the Aryan Brothers who were on Gas Pump 5, the dark vehicle stopping on Gas Pump 4. Three Asian men who carried silenced submachine guns, exited the vehicle and approached, Thomas Heckman, who was pumping gas into the car, while James and Al remained inside their vehicle. One of the gunman fired several shots at Thomas, killing him, while the other two gunman stepped to the side of the Aryan vehicle and fired several shots into the car, killing both James and Al. The gunman then fled the scene, their license plate were covered by a paper pag wrapped with a plastic layer, the vehicle was found 8.3 miles from the crime scene and it was burned down. Police suspected that the shooting was related to the ordered contract killing between the rivalry between the Los Zetas of Mexico and the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, police also identified one of the shooters as a member of the Yoshitomi Group, who is currently working within the Texas crime wave with Mexico's cartels.[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitomi_Group#Murder_of_Aryan_Brotherhood_members
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 08:01 PM
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In June of 2007, a group of three Aryan Brotherhood gang members, Thomas Heckman, James Madison and Al Hayrman, stopped for gas at a Texas highway gas station as a dark vehicle pulled in behind them, through the store cameras the dark vehicle can be seen stopping directly behind the Aryan Brothers who were on Gas Pump 5, the dark vehicle stopping on Gas Pump 4. Three Asian men who carried silenced submachine guns, exited the vehicle and approached, Thomas Heckman, who was pumping gas into the car, while James and Al remained inside their vehicle. One of the gunman fired several shots at Thomas, killing him, while the other two gunman stepped to the side of the Aryan vehicle and fired several shots into the car, killing both James and Al. The gunman then fled the scene, their license plate were covered by a paper pag wrapped with a plastic layer, the vehicle was found 8.3 miles from the crime scene and it was burned down. Police suspected that the shooting was related to the ordered contract killing between the rivalry between the Los Zetas of Mexico and the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, police also identified one of the shooters as a member of the Yoshitomi Group, who is currently working within the Texas crime wave with Mexico's cartels.[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitomi_Group#Murder_of_Aryan_Brotherhood_members You post a story about a MEXICAN GANG and the Aryan Brotherhood. WTF does the JAPANESE YAKUZA have to do with the story you posted?
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 08:02 PM
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similar to my last post has cosa nostra been into wars or so with street gangs if so who were they.
I know that the Japanese Yakuza and Aryan Brotherhood are rivals. Again, can you link us to a new article by which you base the claim that the Japanese Yakuza and the Aryan Brotherhood have a rivalry?
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 09:13 PM
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similar to my last post has cosa nostra been into wars or so with street gangs if so who were they.
I know that the Japanese Yakuza and Aryan Brotherhood are rivals. Again, can you link us to a new article by which you base the claim that the Japanese Yakuza and the Aryan Brotherhood have a rivalry? Based on his link, it would appear that the Zetas hired at least one member of a Yakuza organization called the Yoshitomi group to assassinate several members of the Aryan brotherhood. Botz maybe overextended himself by using this incident as basis for a rivalry, but c'mon, you know what he's trying to say. He's just curious about situations where the Cosa Nostra exchanged violence against other types of gangs, and I gotta say that I'm pretty interested in this idea. I know that Cosa Nostra groups in New England have had some friction with Irish gangs operating up there, but unfortunately I don't know of any specifics. That's my contribution botz, hope it helped.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/15/11 10:21 PM
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similar to my last post has cosa nostra been into wars or so with street gangs if so who were they.
I know that the Japanese Yakuza and Aryan Brotherhood are rivals. Again, can you link us to a new article by which you base the claim that the Japanese Yakuza and the Aryan Brotherhood have a rivalry? Based on his link, it would appear that the Zetas hired at least one member of a Yakuza organization called the Yoshitomi group to assassinate several members of the Aryan brotherhood. Botz maybe overextended himself by using this incident as basis for a rivalry, but c'mon, you know what he's trying to say. He's just curious about situations where the Cosa Nostra exchanged violence against other types of gangs, and I gotta say that I'm pretty interested in this idea. I know that Cosa Nostra groups in New England have had some friction with Irish gangs operating up there, but unfortunately I don't know of any specifics. That's my contribution botz, hope it helped. I am interested in the topic also but one instance of a contract killing is hardly a rivalry. Is there any proof that these men were even Yakuza or is it just all speculation because they were Asian? Were there any charges even laid in this incident? As I'm sure you already know anyone can post anything they want on wiki, so who knows if this story is even true. Now I'm not saying it isn't but I will have to see a source other than Wiki for me to believe otherwise. Again I am certainly interested in this topic and off the top of my head I know the Philly mob under Scarfo killed the leader of the Greek mafia because he refused to pay the street tax.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/16/11 01:57 PM
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if you kill somebody's men there going to come back and kill that other persons men in that organization Yah but that article you posted is total BS. Nothing comes up outside of wiki and if it were true it would appear in more places than wikipedia. You really don't realize that anyone can post anything they want in wiki, do you? And why would a prominent Mexican Org have to contract out to the Yakuza to get shooters? It doesn't make any sense at all. They would have enough guys who could do the shooting, no need to have to seek out Yakuza members to do there dirty work.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/17/11 01:42 PM
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take it as you please if that what it says then, then thats what it says don't have a nervous breakdown. I'm pretty sure when it was explained to you that wiki is unreliable and anyone can post whatever they want there you had a meltdown. At least now you know and won't waste everyone's time posting articles with wiki as your only source.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/17/11 08:50 PM
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Me meltdown??? your diagnosis P.M.S. Coming from a guy who thought Scotland Yard was Canadian and that Canada was part of the UK LMAO. How can anyone ever take what you say seriously? YOu should delete your account and start over son and think really hard before you submit a post.
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/18/11 04:21 AM
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Mussolini ~ you're becoming rather rambunctious with other members. Chill out and have fun without the attitude. Whatever man, if you read the post you will see I didn't start anything and was respectful until I had a rude comment aimed at me. Is it a rule we can't respond to belligerent comments against us? I saw this gem http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=607603#Post607603 and then saw Botz post a belligerent comment towards me in this thread and responded accordingly. How would you feel if a poster claimed Sweden was part of the USA?
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Re: cosa nostra vs street gangs
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07/18/11 05:09 AM
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Whatever man, if you read the post you will see I didn't start anything and was respectful until I had a rude comment aimed at me. Is it a rule we can't respond to belligerent comments against us? I saw this gem http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=607603#Post607603 and then saw Botz post a belligerent comment towards me in this thread and responded accordingly. How would you feel if a poster claimed Sweden was part of the USA? You're missing the point. Take a week on me to think about it.
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