It seems rumors are sworling several people that are made members and associates of the Patriarca Family that are already in prison, have been pulled out to face the music on other charges, one is confirmed, and it is because of Mark Rossetti. Is the FBI going to swoop up the Patriarca's in one swoop out of embarassment??? It's starting now, fasten your seat belt folks we are in for a ride.

i wonder who these made guys are, damm i never found out if the saint turned rat!! they keep pushing his court date back

Well the Saint is supposingly the made guy that is going to testify against Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio in his case. The Saint admitted in accordance with his plea deal that at the time of his extortions of Taunton, Ma bookmakers, Manocchio was his superior and the "Boss" of the Patriarca Family.

yeah i know but they never explicitly said it will be the saint who will testify they just said they have "made members" who will testify, he did say luigi was the boss but i want to see if he cut a deal

Not sure, let me tell you, everything is on hold for other guys I know that are either up for sentencing, or going through court motions on their cases because of Mark Rossetti. Mark knows alot about Manocchio, so lets see what happens.

this is what i hate about mob cases they always take sooooo long to follow through look at tommy shots, joel cacace, etc

Well in this case you have Mark Rossetti who was informing all these years, so the FBI are putting cases and charges together based on what he gave the FBI, so this is why this State case is taking so long, plus other cases.

yep its always all these diff cases and this and that its just frustrating and im not even one of the guys charged lol i cant even imagine how these guys must feel waiting for these charges to be resolved

Vinny any idea which people got lugged from there cells and what the charges were ? Its no big deal to post that it will b public knowledge soon enough

Relatives of Mark Rossetti thats all I can say at the moment.

didnt had the time to follow the mark rosseti thing but is he and the fbi in trouble? or is the patriarca's who are the only ones in shit right now?

Well nothing is being released on what the FBI knew of what Rossetti was doing while being a confidential informant. Nothing is being released on what Mark gave the Feds over the last 10 years. And the State Police and the FBI are saying everything was constructed by the book. Until some information by the FBI is released, then we will know if the FBI, Mark Rossetti, or the Patriarcas are in trouble. My opinion everyone in the Patriarcas are in deep shit on what he gave them. So their screwed no matter what.

ok fair enough. Now i gotta make some calls to find out who this rat is related to other than his cousin stephen LOL

Richie gillis is mark's cousin and him and darin are going to get charged with the vinny arcieri murder that took place back in 1992.

Do you know that for sure Chico?

Wasnt there myself, but lets just say that this is a very strong rumor thats been circulating for years, also im already hearing that darin is talking himself he was moved out of mci concord to shirley medium, and his wife is trying to sell the house in winthrop, sounds like he's going into witsec. I did time with alot of wiseguys from the bonanno family and when sal vitale flipped almost everyone in that family flipped too, same thing is going to happen here just watch, and richie gillis is rumored to have been an informant himself people had discovery

Bobby carrozza's son bobby jr and sean vetere had discovery in thier drug case that said richie gillis is an informant, I read that myself when I was being detained down plymouth and we were all in the same pod and yes mark rossetti was there himself and when we approached mark with this he said he didnt beleive it that richie was his cousin and just said a bunch of stuff to let the feds release him out of custody, little did anyone know mark was the biggest CI at the time.

Well if Mark Rossetti, Stephen Rossetti, Richie Gillis, and Darin Bufalino are all talking, then that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for the Patriarcas.

ya this will be like a domino effect alot more guys are gonna flip before this is all over and alot of guys will go down.

The streets will be wide open after this is over. Question is who will step up and take over the rackets???

Yeah I dont think a soul will be out there, maybe 10 guys between Boston and Providence, and whats left to build the Family up is incapable of doing that before being taken down by the law.

some1 will step up there is way to much money out there and some1 will take a shot at it. Mayb it will b a young associate who has the balls and drive to try and take things over.

All i know for sure is this is going 2 b a interesting year or 2

Well now reports are starting to come in that indictments are going to be released before December of this year.

There is gonna be a lot mire elbow room for the independents out there....dealers who were pressured to pay tax or were robbed are gonna be able to stretch their legs now. There are a few Malden guys almost done with bids that I can think of off the bat. POWER VACCUM.

What Malden guys do you think will fill the void?

There are a couple of guys finishing bids_(one in dix and one doing state time) if it wasnt for a contempt charge for keeping quiet during a recent(and continuing) grand jury he would be done with his state time. The kid in dix is out in june. I dont think these guys are gonna take over everything but they both are well known and will assuredly attempt to capatilize next summer.

im sure you know them vinny....also-whats your take on the grand jury on a certain prominent businessman???

I know the grand jury your talkin about on the fat kid. Whats my take, well you mess with the stuff your goin down that simple. I know who your talkin about from Malden one'd down in Rhode Island and he wont talk on the fat kid right?

Ya vin he won't take on the fat kid-rumor was they were pressing him hard and he may get another contempt. The kid from Malden is just a good example of an independent that could rise to prosperity....a kid with balls and chip on his shoulder.

U think they have enough to lug the fat kid??

Well I think the black kid from Malden from what it seems makes their case against him, and he just wont talk. If that is the case it depends upon the kid from Malden to get an indictment, then the Feds wont get their wish. But I think they have some info and evidence, but this is a well respected business man, the Feds have to be dead on ball to produce charges.