Joe Pistone, Bob Delaney and Edgar Robb, respectively. Apart from Jack Falcone (Joaqin Garcia) and "Dino" of Philly, can anyone name some other agents/cops that infiltrated a family? I have a feeling there's a few more. I mean guys that came into it as a copper.

Not that i know, but i am sure there were some minor infiltrations. And of course there are some in the field as we speak.

In Boston and FBI Agent named Vincent DelaMontaigne infiltrated the Patriarca Family in Boston, he was able to gain the confidence of Capo Regime Biagio Digiacomo, which lead to the convictions of Digiacomo himself, Antonio "Spucky" Spagnolo, and Vincent "Dee Dee" Giaocchini, for illegal card games, hot credit cards, and loansharking.

Aha. Thanks Vinny. Id knew there'd be more.

Having googled the guy, I found this article at the LaborersNet;
http://www.thelaborers.net/lexisnexis/746_fsupp_1176_us_v_digiacomo.htm

Any one else? There's gotta be eh?

Who were the guys who infiltrated Capone's proto-Outfit?

Back in 2001, an undercover who went by the name "Big Frankie" infiltrated Patsy Parrello's Bronx based Genovese crew. As a result, Patsy and two other Genovese family captains (Ross Gangi & Joe Dente Jr.) took pleas for pretty substantial amounts of prison time.

"Big Frankie" wasn't a Fed, just a run of the mill NYPD undercover. To the best of my knowledge, he has never gone public with his true identity, tried to capitalize by writing a book, or gone on 60 Minutes. I can respect that.

And FYI: Gangi, Dente and Parrello were all more important to the Genovese family than Greg DePalma was to the Gambinos. But "Jack Falcone" won't tell you that .

Greg Depalma was useless. All I can remember him doing is settling disputes with the Rudaj Organization, and clearly that didn't work out. The funniest Falcone story is when he was describing on 60 minutes how Greg Depalma was such a tough guy, scary to get close to. 'Very evil man'. And then the reporter says, "Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the man who once used a [censored, starts with a P] on a man's head who he thought was stealing from him?' Apparently it was so graphic that it was censored. Really strange. It's sad when Falcone is acting like he was investigating Albert Anastasia here.

DePalma's biggest claim to fame was the picture with Sinatra at the Westchester Premiere Theatre. He was able to con people off that bit of opportunism for years. He remained a bit of a local celebrity in Westchester until the day he died. But he NEVER had the actual clout in Westchester or the Bronx that his counterparts in other families had (guys like Patsy Parrello, Angelo Prisco, Joe Dente, Joey Giampa, et al.). Greg was respected and feared much more by "civilians" than other guys in the life.

I can definitely respect that. Good on him. Thanks PB. "Big Frankie", another one to add to the count. And Im far more impressed with what he did with the Genovese then anything Jack Falcone did with Greg DePalma.

Big Frankie is a joke! He never met with one singel Made Guy, they were all associates. That's why there is no interest in writting a book or 60 minutes. He did take down a lot of associates and was given credit for it but any wiseguy that was areested came from wiretaps or rats who did them in. He never even sat down with a made guy for a cup of coffee. He supposedly went out to Vegas on a Boxing case and there not even one guy was indicted and arrested there.

Another Undercover was FBI Agent John Bonino who worked with Joe "Joey Dogs" Iannuzzi in Operation Home Run in Florida. Here is the wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Iannuzzi

There was also Veteran FBI Undercover agent Michael McGowan who was introduced by Ron Previte around Philadelphia.
http://articles.philly.com/2001-05-31/news/25301774_1_cocaine-deals-drug-deals-cocaine-transactions

And let's not forget Hero DEA Undercover Agent killed in the line of Duty:
Everett E. Hatcher
October 9, 1942 to February 28, 1989
Special Agent Everett E. Hatcher of the Drug Enforcement Administration's New York Field Division, was shot and killed on February 28, 1989, during an undercover investigation on Staten Island in New York City. He was 46 years of age at the time of his death.

The main target of the investigation was Gerard A Gerry-Chilli. A close associate and member of Chilli's crew was Costabile A Gus-Farace. Farace was dealing illegal narcotics and had an extensive criminal background that included a conviction for murder. On February 28, 1989 at approximately 9:00 p.m. Special Agent Hatcher met Farace on Staten Island to discuss the purchase of several ounces of cocaine. This was the third meeting between the two. During their meeting, without any warning, Farace shot Special Agent Hatcher several times with a .357 Magnum handgun, killing him.

Assisted by law enforcement agencies in the New York City area, DEA instantly spearheaded a massive manhunt in an attempt to apprehend Farace. The search ended on November 18, 1989 when Farace was found shot to death on the streets of Bensonhurst Brooklyn, murdered by members of his own organized crime family.

Special Agent Hatcher became a DEA Special Agent in January 1977 at the New York Regional Office. During his twelve years with DEA, he worked in a variety of investigative assignments throughout the New York Field Division for which he received Special Achievement Awards in 1982 and 1983. He also served as a firearms instructor and a recruiting officer. In 1987, he received a third Special Achievement Award for his efforts with DEA's agent recruiting program.

Prior to joining DEA, Hatcher spent six years in Germany as an Army Deputy Provost Marshal and physical education teacher at a U.S. military dependents high school. He returned to New York in 1975 to teach in New York City schools. He was working for the New York District Attorney as an investigator when he was accepted as a Special Agent with DEA. Special Agent Hatcher was an experienced teacher who earned a Bachelor of Science degree in physical education from Hampton Institute in Virginia in 1968, a Master of Education degree from Boston College with high honors in 1974, and had completed advanced graduate studies at Boston College and John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. Special Agent Hatcher was survived by his wife Mary Jane and two sons, Zachary and Joshua. The New York Field Division sponsors an annual golf tournament in honor of Special Agent Hatcher. Proceeds from the tournament benefit the DEA Survivors Benefit Fund.

Also there was FBI Agent Victor Quintano who infiltrated The Colombos and dealt with Michael Franzese. Here is an Article written by Franzese regarding Al Sharpton, Racism in the NFL and other stories
http://biggovernment.com/mfranzese/2009/...lease-stand-up/

Another Undercover agent is Bob Hamer and he claims that he infiltrated the Sicilian MAfia and La Cosa Nostra. I think it's bullshit though, maybe one of you guys knows better. He wrote three books and I only read one and it really sucked! I still think that Falcone was the best of them all. Just like the Assistant Director of The FBI said in Falcone's 6o minute piece, Garcia is one of the best agents in the fBI's One Hundred year history. Here is Bo Hamer's webpage:
http://www.bobhamer.net/biography.html

Hmm. Most accounts Ive read so far have him actually meeting Patsy Parello. May be wrong though, sloppy journalism can do that.

I had just remembered McGowan too. Ralph Natale's operation with Bobby Luisi wasn't exactly big time but with Natale's big mouth, bragging to anyone who'd listen, he was about done anyway.
And how could I have forgotton Hatcher? There was alot of fallout for Farace following that one.

Thanks for the other posts Beanshooter. Interesting stuff.

True. Wasn't Gangi a ruling-panel member/administration material for a while?

I think the average Genovese solider in the BX probably had/has more clout than DePalma

Recently reread "Cigar City Mafia" by Scott M. Deitch, he makes mention of a "Tampa cop, on loan to the FBI, one Jim Bartoszak, aka Jim Brock, who infiltrated Bonanno and Trafficante faction operations in South Florida and Tampa during a four year operaion. Deitch states that evidence gained by Bartoszak resulted in indictments which included TG Graziano.

Sounds like its a matter of opinion too, cuz Ive heard lots of guys bagging Jack Garcia for pretty much blowing up his deception of Greg DePalma as some sort of a strike against the heart of LCN. Others say that DePalma was a mean old prick, and just getting close enlough to do him in was risk enough.

So theres;
Joe Pistone (Donnie Brasco) Bonanno/Colombo
Bob Delaney (Bobby Smash) NJ
Joaqin Garcia (Jack Falcone) Gambino
"Big Frank" Genovese
"Dino" Philly
Edgar Robb (Tony Rossi) FL
"Vincent dellaMontaigne" Patriarca
John Bonino (Joe Marino) Gambino
Michael McGowan(Mike Sullivan) Philly
"Victor Quintana" Colombo
Jim Baroszak (Jim Brock) Bonanno/Tampa
Bob Hamer (questionable)


Everett E. Hatcher, undecover agent murdered by Gus Farace (not sanctioned)

Do you guys think that Farace actually knew that that guy was DEA?

Of course he didn't know. They don't kill law enforcement, too much backlash. As soon as it happened he went into hiding and many governmet resouces were devoted to interferring with their operations, so there'd be pressure to turn this guy over or kill him, which they did.

I read somewhere that the Mob wanted to kill Gus Farace and throw hin out in the front steps of the DEA office so as to declare peace.

It's very rare that US organized crime will deliberately assault or kill law enforcement,people working in the legal system or politicians but it happens.

The Philadelphia Mob murdered Judge Edwin Helfant; Charles Carneglia (or someone working on his behalf) murdered court officer Albert Gelb. In its heyday the Outfit murdered a few police officers or politicians. I don't have the book with me now but I vaguely remember in Maas' biography of Serpico, Serpico tells of being angry watching fellow police officers joke and laugh with a mob connected dealer/bookmaker who as it turned out had either shot or murdered a cop.

The Colombos killed a judge on orders of Carmine Persico. He wanted to kill the judges lawyer son, but the himan got the wrong George Aronwald. Joel Cacace gave the orders to two brothers then had them killed, and married one of their wives, then he had the hit men who killed the brothers killed, one of them being Louie Eppilitos cousin, who got him involved with the whole Casso thing.

That's correct, Lilo.

The mob connected dealer/bookmaker was Rudy Santobello of the Bronx. In 1950 he was involved in the murder of an off-duty cop while in the process of an attempted kidnapping. Being that the cop's death happened during the commission of another crime, Santobello was sentenced to life in prison in 1951. But it was reversed in 1966 on a technicality (illegal search, I believe).

Upon his release he became a pretty big earner, and went on to become a Capo in the Genovese Family. He's gotta be in his 80s now, but he's still "around."

Those old time Genovese guys seem to have found the secret to longetivity. They all seem to live well into their 80s and beyond.

Cosa Nostra never kills law enforcement. Well 95% of the time, no. I've read that Farace did time with the DEA agent he had killed. Was he that deep undercover? You know, to actually do jail time, that's fucking badass.

Lol, at Farace being thrown on the doorsteps of the DEA. Very Bonanno like, though I always though Farace was with the Colombos. Anyone think that would've happened to another agency, i.e., ATF or even FBI?