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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LaLouisiane] #734946
08/16/13 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
This is my first post guys so sorry for the inconvenience, but where do i find info on New Orleans?


If you meant where do i find a New Orleans chart, there is none because there is not an active family there anymore.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #735434
08/19/13 10:04 AM
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I was in NOLA a few weeks ago and asked around. I was told there is a few older guys still alive, but as well as for organization there is nothing to be found. People can make assumptions or claims about it being powerful, but word on the street from the bartenders, strippers, and door guys is that the street gangs pose more of a threat from robbing you than does any gambling, extortion, or shakedowns from the NOLA LCN which is virtually non existant. (What i mean by that is there is no bars on Boubron owned by them, or any large significant betting rings worth worrying about.) Sad turn of events, Louisiana with all of its corruption would be prime for the taking by any intelligent wiseguys.


"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"

"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"


Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #735627
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Yeah, I once read that in Louisiana, corruption wasn't tolerated. It was demanded.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #735648
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Lousiana Fast


My name is caemine not carmine.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #735657
08/20/13 12:36 PM
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Our former and still very popular governor Edwin Edwards, who served four terms, was released from federal prison in 2011 after serving 10 years for 17 counts including racketeering, money laundering, etc... And at 86 years old, just had a baby with his new wife. Were it possible for him to run again, he'd be re-elected in a heartbeat.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: DaneDane] #735664
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This I agree with. When the bust happened with him trying to fix the riverboat gambling liscenses, I heard the Nola Family was behind it, not sure how true it was. Still a great man!


"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"

"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"


Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LaLouisiane] #738006
09/02/13 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
This I agree with. When the bust happened with him trying to fix the riverboat gambling liscenses, I heard the Nola Family was behind it, not sure how true it was. Still a great man!

Good ol' Eddie is supposed to have a reality show on A&E premiering "this summer," but as of Aug. 1 the airing was delayed for unknown reasons.

Even Carlos Marcello respected him, he was caught via wiretap talking about all the politicians he had "in his pocket." About Edwards he said, "Edmund and me alright, but I can't see him everyday. He's the strongest sonofabitchin' governor we ever had. He fuck with women and play dice, but won't drink. How do you like dat?"

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #742847
10/03/13 09:32 PM
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Is this a Renaissance for the New York Mafia?



Mancuso, Bonanno boss in
waiting?

Is DiFiore just keeping the seat warm
for Mancuso?
I thought I'd take a look at this, since some readers seem to be commenting an awful lot on a recent post about the Gambino family having 750 made members and associates.

We all know the FBI has only two squads -- roughly 25 agents -- left to keep an eye on, never mind investigate, New York's five Mafia families. So now would seem the perfect time for them to start growing, start doing some real business -- I am talking executions and murders, too -- err, I mean acquisitions and mergers...




"The mob agents are the bastard stepchildren of the FBI these days," an FBI source recently revealed. "Everything is terrorism now. If you want to be somebody with a future in the FBI you want to be assigned to terrorism."

"If you want a couple grand to get an informant on a mob case you're going to be waiting a month," said another FBI source. "If you need that same money for a terrorism case you're going to get it the next day."

One squad handles the Lucchese and Gambino families, while another handles the rest, sources have revealed. This right here says the Gambinos and Lucheses must be the largest...

Don Vito, Montreal boss
It goes without saying that for many years the FBI once had a squad for each of the families -- which is how they so effectively managed to dismantle organized crime in recent years, reaching a crescendo, perhaps, with the infamous Mafia Takedown Day (soon to become a national holiday??)

Anyway this is the best "data" I could found on the size of the mob in New York:


700 made mafia members
More than 7,000 associates

Now, tell me: does 750 seem too large for the Gambinos? (Again, it is a combo of made men and associates.) It still leaved over 6,000 for the other four families...

And why do you think some Feds are "worried that the lack of attention could lead to a Wiseguy resurgence?" as Jerry Capeci recently reported, and who furnished the above data?

I'd say the Feds have damn good reason to worry... and the mob, to fucking celebrate!!!

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #743501
10/08/13 01:25 PM
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Idk. It doesn't seem like the mob is ever going to be what it used to be

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #744727
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Up to date mafia charts --> https://cosanostracharts.wordpress.com/
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #744730
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nice charts. cant wait to see the rest when you post them.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #744748
10/17/13 10:06 AM
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good job Mukremin!!

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #744833
10/17/13 09:16 PM
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Interesting.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745201
10/21/13 02:34 PM
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Where's T.G ?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: MobMan] #745297
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He is listed under soldier/shelved

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745511
10/23/13 01:56 PM
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This is the complete list so far, i got rid of the old links.. These are high-res Photobucket links, so its easy for people to get the charts. Can someone edit the first post and delete the post which contain links?

New York 5 Mafia families:

Bonanno Family:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/BonannoCosaNostraFamily_zps34ac18d5.jpg

Colombo Family:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/ColomboCosaNostraFamily_zps589e0a60.jpg

Gambino Family:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/GambinoCosaNostraFamily_zps1f866ae9.jpg

Genovese Family:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/GenoveseCosaNostraFamily_zps3fb7129e.jpg

Lucchese Family:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/LuccheseCosaNostraFamily_zps8c7d981c.jpg

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The Commission chart 1931:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/TheCommissionin1931_zpsee588f9e.jpg

The Commission in 1961 chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/TheCommissionin1961_zps73d61d51.jpg

Apalachin summit chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/ApalachinMafiasummitchart_zpsd0cb9aa3.jpg

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1985 Gambino Cosa Nostra Family chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/1985GambinoCosaNostrachart_zps05128dba.jpg

1985 Genovese Cosa Nostra Family chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/1985GenoveseCosaNostrachart_zps8876ff6a.jpg

1985 Colombo Cosa Nostra Family chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/1985ColomboCosaNostrachart_zpsf5362c2c.jpg

1985 Lucchese Cosa Nostra Family chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/1985LuccheseCosaNostrachart_zpsb74c4b89.jpg

1985 Bonanno Cosa Nostra Family chart:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/1985BonannoCosaNostrachart_zpsb5afe842.jpg
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FBI turncoats:

5 NY Families Turncoats:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/5NYfamiliesturncoats_zps9bb7d173.jpg

Other Family Turncoats:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/OtherFamilyturncoats_zpsd98298ec.jpg

Last edited by Mukremin; 10/24/13 01:19 PM.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745611
10/24/13 12:20 PM
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Some pictures on 1985 chart are not complete or placed wrong, so goes for the turncoat charts. Will fix them, any feedback is appreciated.

Heres a map i made/edited, nothing much but still interesting to see:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mukremin/AmericanCosaNostraFamilyMap.jpg

Last edited by Mukremin; 10/24/13 04:16 PM.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745690
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These are some great charts, Mukremin.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745702
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Great charts Muk, thanks again. Do you know when Cirillo became a capo since he's not on the 85 chart?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745712
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when is the philly chart coming out?


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Camarel] #745729
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Great charts Muk, thanks again. Do you know when Cirillo became a capo since he's not on the 85 chart?


He did take control of the Greenwich Village crew, until the beginning of 81 Gigante headed that crew. During that time he was very close to Gigante, i havent got a source of him being a capo back then. He was listed a capo last indicment.

Perhaps someone has info


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: HandsomeStevie] #745730
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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
when is the philly chart coming out?


Working on it now along with Chicago. I will have to abandon the other charts since its not worth the time because no real family exists outside New York and Chicago.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #745761
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Great charts Muk, thanks again. Do you know when Cirillo became a capo since he's not on the 85 chart?


He did take control of the Greenwich Village crew, until the beginning of 81 Gigante headed that crew. During that time he was very close to Gigante, i havent got a source of him being a capo back then. He was listed a capo last indicment.

Perhaps someone has info


You're right Mangano was probably the Greenwich Village capo in 85, for some reason i thought he was part of the 116th street crew.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #746109
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When Interpol?
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: cheech] #746117
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I'd like to know that too, i've never seen that pic of Gambino before.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Camarel] #746177
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Originally Posted By: Camarel


I'd like to know that too, i've never seen that pic of Gambino before.


Thats from the Life Magazine of september 1967 i bought from eBay.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #746189
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Camarel


I'd like to know that too, i've never seen that pic of Gambino before.


Thats from the Life Magazine of september 1967 i bought from eBay.


I read about that somewhere that a FBI agent (can't remember his name) was feeding info to a Life journalist on the mob and he proceeded to heavily exaggerate their power or something to that effect.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #746196
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thanks just bought it


When Interpol?
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Camarel] #746237
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Camarel


I'd like to know that too, i've never seen that pic of Gambino before.


Thats from the Life Magazine of september 1967 i bought from eBay.


I read about that somewhere that a FBI agent (can't remember his name) was feeding info to a Life journalist on the mob and he proceeded to heavily exaggerate their power or something to that effect.


That could be possible because in those days they didnt exactly know the strength of the mafia. But on the other hand lets not forget those times were the mobs Golden Era, not the 70s or 80s like some claim. The 50s and 60s were the golden age of the mafia.


No problem Cheech smile enjoy it


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #746278
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Muk, under the informants chart for Chicago, you have a picture of Butch Petrocelli as Nick Calabrese. I have seen a lot of websites mislabel Nick as Butch, probably because of the dearth of good pics of Nick.

Here are two actual photos/images of Nick:




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