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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: sonytoprano]
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10/12/11 02:26 AM
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From the top of my head, the poker games. At the executive game, the dealer "Sunshine" (what kind of nickname is taht) raked $300 in a pot. Are you kidding me? 3 black chips = $300. The reds and greens are for antes $25, and yellow I'm assuming is 1k or 5k. Purples are $500.
A $300 rake is beyond a joke. Even bill gates wont play in a game with a rake up to $300. Standard rake in ANY game in the world is $3-$20 at the most. I'm talking about nosebleed games underground or at casinos.
Sure they were playing pretty high like 400/800, but still, come on chase, do soem fkn research.
also, at a game that is that high, how does dealer not have a cut card? all the pot splashing, looks like these people have never played a hand of cards in their life. I don't recall them ever stating a chip value in any episode. Just because when you play poker with your friends you assign a $25 value to the green chips and $100 to the black chips doesn't mean that everyone else does. As for BS in the Soprano's; how about if the Jersey family boss assaulted a high ranking member in one of the big NY families as Tony did to Phil when he chased after him and then grabbed him by the throat after his red Lincoln crashed they would be in serious trouble. Also If the Jersey family whacked a boss of a NY family they would be in a lot of trouble however it can be argued that Tony paid for the move with his life depending on how you interpret the ending of the final episode. Now given that Tony told Chris that "Phil has 200 soldiers in his family" it would have to be the Genovese or Gambino's and this is all speculation but I would imagine if the Decavalcante boss Jimmy Ocean asualted a capo like Tino Fiumara or Danny Marino he could expect some serious repercussions.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: Mussolini14]
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10/12/11 10:47 AM
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From the top of my head, the poker games. At the executive game, the dealer "Sunshine" (what kind of nickname is taht) raked $300 in a pot. Are you kidding me? 3 black chips = $300. The reds and greens are for antes $25, and yellow I'm assuming is 1k or 5k. Purples are $500.
A $300 rake is beyond a joke. Even bill gates wont play in a game with a rake up to $300. Standard rake in ANY game in the world is $3-$20 at the most. I'm talking about nosebleed games underground or at casinos.
Sure they were playing pretty high like 400/800, but still, come on chase, do soem fkn research.
also, at a game that is that high, how does dealer not have a cut card? all the pot splashing, looks like these people have never played a hand of cards in their life. I don't recall them ever stating a chip value in any episode. Just because when you play poker with your friends you assign a $25 value to the green chips and $100 to the black chips doesn't mean that everyone else does. As for BS in the Soprano's; how about if the Jersey family boss assaulted a high ranking member in one of the big NY families as Tony did to Phil when he chased after him and then grabbed him by the throat after his red Lincoln crashed they would be in serious trouble. Also If the Jersey family whacked a boss of a NY family they would be in a lot of trouble however it can be argued that Tony paid for the move with his life depending on how you interpret the ending of the final episode. Now given that Tony told Chris that "Phil has 200 soldiers in his family" it would have to be the Genovese or Gambino's and this is all speculation but I would imagine if the Decavalcante boss Jimmy Ocean asualted a capo like Tino Fiumara or Danny Marino he could expect some serious repercussions. hey kid, in the gambling world, to assign any other denomination to those chips would be , any degenerate high roller knows that. green = 25 , black =100, purple=500, yellow/orange= 1000/5000 as to ny vs nj, yeah ny is portrayed too incompetent. i was wondering too where the fucks the other 200 soldiers ...in iraq?
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: NickyScarfo]
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10/12/11 10:40 PM
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If were talking BS stuff how about the fact that a new Jersey family whacked about 30+ people in 8 years! Obviously though we needed that for our entertainment lol. Yah it's funny, I've said that before, you got what's a already a small family and in less then a decade something like 20 members are killed or die off, if I wasn't so lazy I would do the count but it's got to be atleast 20.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: sonytoprano]
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10/12/11 10:56 PM
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From the top of my head, the poker games. At the executive game, the dealer "Sunshine" (what kind of nickname is taht) raked $300 in a pot. Are you kidding me? 3 black chips = $300. The reds and greens are for antes $25, and yellow I'm assuming is 1k or 5k. Purples are $500.
A $300 rake is beyond a joke. Even bill gates wont play in a game with a rake up to $300. Standard rake in ANY game in the world is $3-$20 at the most. I'm talking about nosebleed games underground or at casinos.
Sure they were playing pretty high like 400/800, but still, come on chase, do soem fkn research.
also, at a game that is that high, how does dealer not have a cut card? all the pot splashing, looks like these people have never played a hand of cards in their life. I don't recall them ever stating a chip value in any episode. Just because when you play poker with your friends you assign a $25 value to the green chips and $100 to the black chips doesn't mean that everyone else does. As for BS in the Soprano's; how about if the Jersey family boss assaulted a high ranking member in one of the big NY families as Tony did to Phil when he chased after him and then grabbed him by the throat after his red Lincoln crashed they would be in serious trouble. Also If the Jersey family whacked a boss of a NY family they would be in a lot of trouble however it can be argued that Tony paid for the move with his life depending on how you interpret the ending of the final episode. Now given that Tony told Chris that "Phil has 200 soldiers in his family" it would have to be the Genovese or Gambino's and this is all speculation but I would imagine if the Decavalcante boss Jimmy Ocean asualted a capo like Tino Fiumara or Danny Marino he could expect some serious repercussions. hey kid, in the gambling world, to assign any other denomination to those chips would be , any degenerate high roller knows that. green = 25 , black =100, purple=500, yellow/orange= 1000/5000 as to ny vs nj, yeah ny is portrayed too incompetent. i was wondering too where the fucks the other 200 soldiers ...in iraq? Finish your point. To assign any other denomination would be what? I'm just pointing out they could be only worth $5 or $10 we don't know. I could have missed it but I don't remember them talking about the values. Also about the killing in the Soprano's I think the closest actual family to kill so many would have been Philly under Scarfo.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: sonytoprano]
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10/13/11 03:21 AM
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it would be a sin. its unprofessional, sloppy, confusing, and disorganized.
clearly they followed the standard denominations. they raked $80k in that game. That is unbelievable, if the rake is 80k from a 5-6 handed game. Nobody could be a winner if the rake is that high.
it is common knowledge in the poker/gambling world that those are the standard denominations. google "$25 chip" and look up the images, i guarantee most are green. google "$100 chip" and they'll all be black and so on. So no, its not just my home game.
here's another thing that is kind of bs but out of their control: how could AJ possibly be so short? sure he takes on carmela's side of the family according to tony, but he's fucking shorter than carmela, hugh and the mother! Maybe david chase should have made him adopted, make things more interesting.
tony's attempted killers: are they really that incompetent? i wouldnt be able to make up this story. they miss at point blank like 4 times a target as big as tony, and then tony grabs the guys gun in the drivers seat from the passenger side while fighting off another guy. not possible. maybe thats why tony started laughing his ass off when he got away.
the mustang sally hit: during the struggle, mustang sally reaches for his own gun and grabs it and there is nothing blocking him from shooting old man baccala, but his arm seems to be stuck in mid air. while unable to hold off old man baccala and gets capped.
phil leotardo putting benny in the emergency room: he hit him with a wooden walking cane several times, not enough to put benny in the emergency room like that unless there was knife attached to the cane that i missed.
tony blundetto finding the 13k and crack: why would the speeding lexus throw away the 13k? why not just the crack? it would have been a lot more discreet to throw away the crack, no following vehicle would have even noticed the little capsules in the dark. last time i checked, it wasn't illegal to have 13k cash on u... especially when you're already driving a lexus.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: sonytoprano]
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10/13/11 10:36 AM
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it would be a sin. its unprofessional, sloppy, confusing, and disorganized.
clearly they followed the standard denominations. they raked $80k in that game. That is unbelievable, if the rake is 80k from a 5-6 handed game. Nobody could be a winner if the rake is that high.
it is common knowledge in the poker/gambling world that those are the standard denominations. google "$25 chip" and look up the images, i guarantee most are green. google "$100 chip" and they'll all be black and so on. So no, its not just my home game.
here's another thing that is kind of bs but out of their control: how could AJ possibly be so short? sure he takes on carmela's side of the family according to tony, but he's fucking shorter than carmela, hugh and the mother! Maybe david chase should have made him adopted, make things more interesting.
tony's attempted killers: are they really that incompetent? i wouldnt be able to make up this story. they miss at point blank like 4 times a target as big as tony, and then tony grabs the guys gun in the drivers seat from the passenger side while fighting off another guy. not possible. maybe thats why tony started laughing his ass off when he got away.
the mustang sally hit: during the struggle, mustang sally reaches for his own gun and grabs it and there is nothing blocking him from shooting old man baccala, but his arm seems to be stuck in mid air. while unable to hold off old man baccala and gets capped.
phil leotardo putting benny in the emergency room: he hit him with a wooden walking cane several times, not enough to put benny in the emergency room like that unless there was knife attached to the cane that i missed.
tony blundetto finding the 13k and crack: why would the speeding lexus throw away the 13k? why not just the crack? it would have been a lot more discreet to throw away the crack, no following vehicle would have even noticed the little capsules in the dark. last time i checked, it wasn't illegal to have 13k cash on u... especially when you're already driving a lexus.
While I agree with some of what your saying any show can be nitpicked and they always jazz up shows/movies. That being said it is fun to discuss the screw ups. About the 13k being tossed, under panicked situations people do stupid things. If there were more than one maybe the guy who throw it forgot for a split second that the $ were in there. I'm sure he regretted it later. Benny being turned into a vegetable from a 65 year man hitting him with a can 3-4 times is a little much. They could have shown Phil and the other goons he was with at least boot stomping him to make it a little more believable.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: Scorsese]
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10/14/11 02:07 AM
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I know the other family is bigger than his and that but he cant act like a punk either cause end of the day the guys a gangleader with a bunch of sociopaths lookin to him for leadership. If he acts like a pussy everytime someone bigger tries to mess with him his own people would probably kill him or he wouldnt have made to that position in the first place.
Also they liked killed and robbed a whole bunch of columbian drug dealers which i dont find very believable as they dont seem to have any drug deals or any clout within the drug world except a bit of ectacy. I think they should have developed that storyline. They reference coke deals fairly regularly throughout the show. Tony was pissed because Ritchie Aprile and Junior were selling it on the garbage routes. Plus they robbed the Colombians of cash not drugs. You find it hard to believe the mob would rob other criminals of ill gotten money? Also I don't know that the body count is too unrealistic. I think there were 20-25 murders in about 7-8 years. The Philly family under Scarfo had over 30 murders in the same amount of time I think.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: Scorsese]
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10/18/11 12:41 PM
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I agree that they are capable of ripping off other criminals but when paulie kills that first columbian as a message in season 1 he says that they were warned which means the columbians must have known it was them but their was no retaliation for it. The later columbian killings in season 6 seemed more to do with robbing them than sending a message even though they werent wearing ski masks or anything and why do they always kill people with their jogging suits on. What Colombians were killed in season 6? refresh my memory. Thanks
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
[Re: Scorsese]
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10/20/11 12:06 AM
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Paulie and some other fat guy killed three of them and then found loads of cash stashed in a dishwasher. I think it was whilst tony was in a coma. Oh yah and one of them kicks Paulie in the groin lol.
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Re: total bs stuff in Sopranos
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11/21/11 11:10 AM
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Also I didn't like that they portrayed jersey mafia just as strong and even stronger than a top new york family. First of all the sopranos are based on the Decalvacante Family who basically were the minor league mafia and did everything that the new york families told them to do Damn right. Funny how Sopranos sometimes really punched the big guys from New York stright in the face. In real life - it'd be a freaking death assignment.
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