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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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11/03/11 03:14 PM
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As for fights, the best was when Sonny beat Carlo. Best on-screen beating ever . That scene was shot on Pleasant Avenue, right near the walkup apartment building that my Dad grew up in. When my grandmother died, in 1991, she was one of the last Italian born women living in that neighborhood. It's nearly 100% Latino today. The exact spot where they were fighting is a hundred yards or so from the famous Rao's restaurant.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
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11/03/11 03:41 PM
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Regarding Zasa's murder, it should be noted that Corleone gunmen opened fire in a venue crowded with men, women, and children. Of course, one or more of them could have fell victim to the gunfire. Who cares, it's a movie. Would Michael (or Vito) have approved of the assault taking place in that venue? Obviously not. Later on in the film Michael condemned the shooting and explicitly said that he would have disapproved.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
[Re: olivant]
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11/04/11 06:54 AM
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Regarding Zasa's murder, it should be noted that Corleone gunmen opened fire in a venue crowded with men, women, and children. I think it's not a moral but a cineastic question. To me the most surprising fighting/shooting scene is Vincent and the burglars. The killing of the first gangster is quite shocking. And when we believe that the second guy survives, he gets shot too. Kind of funny is the killing of the second twin in the opera. We and the second twin believe that Mosca has been strangled. The next moment he stabs. Ouch!
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
[Re: Turnbull]
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11/04/11 11:21 PM
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Interesting that GFIII, the least-liked of the Trilogy, is seemingly the most violent. Correlation? Not in my mind. Part III was least liked because it sucked.
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
[Re: DE NIRO]
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12/08/11 04:35 PM
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Yes, the towel scene was really good. And check out the look on young Vito's face!
FFC must have been paying homage to Arthur Penn when he made GF. Sonny's shooting obviously was modeled on the last scene of "Bonnie and Clyde," which caused a sensation at the time. But it was unrealistic. The Thompson submachine guns that mowed down Sonny fired .45 ACP handgun rounds. The .45 ACP is the proverbial "big slow round," designed for maximum knockdown power at short distance. Even one hit from a .45 ACP, even in a limb, would knock down or disable a person. Sonny would never have been able to do that artistic "dance of death" if even one round had hit him.
Similarly, why did FFC have Rocco and his associate machine-gun Tattaglia (and the hooker) at that range, when Rocco could have knifed or strangled Tatt with a lot less noise? And why did they use Danish military Madsen submachine guns, which were never used by the US military, at a time when the US had plenty of Thompsons and M3A1 "grease guns" lying around in armories?
It was a nice touch for Neri, a former cop, to don his old uniform in assassinating Barzini (and bodyguards and chauffeur). But he took a tremendous risk in using a standard six-shot S&W .38 police issue revolver for all those deaths. He could have kept the .38 in his holster for authenticity, and used a hidden Browning High Power 9mm (14 rounds) for the shooting.
And why have fat, wheezing Clemenza climb all those stairs, lugging a shotgun, to whack Stracci (and the other guy, and probably the elevator operator). And how did he know what floor the elevator would stop on?
Art and drama trump realism.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
[Re: Turnbull]
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12/16/11 07:25 PM
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Art and drama trump realism.
Fiction in a nutshell. In popularity contest, John Grisham trumps Scott Turow, and if you just want entertainment, then Grisham is for you. But for a more serious work in the legal genre, then Turow is your man. As far as the Godfather goes, it sets out to entertain us before anything else. If realism needs to get bent a little, then why the hell not.
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Re: Best shooting/fight scene?
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12/16/11 10:09 PM
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Neri had to use his .38 for 2 reasons - 1) it had to look like a " rogue " cop. If he used a .45 or something else, it would have drawn more attention from bystanders trying to look at his face or getaway vehilcle. 2) In his time as a cop, how many times do you think Neri fired that gun at the firing range at moving and non-moving targets, in all kinds of shooting positions ( theoretically of course). That shot he took at Barzini was what 150 - 200 feet away and what a 45 degree incline - Neri could make that shot with no problem at all.
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