Nicely said.

I will however grant him that there's nothing wrong with questioning Accardo's position, because that remains a topic of debate. There is not much more than speculations about his position anyway. And if you look at the 1963 chart of the Chicago Outfit, you see that there is no clear hierarchy at the top like with the other crime families. So it could be that most of these guys formed the board of directors and pretty much shared the power, with Ricca and Accardo being first among equals, like Lilo wrote.

I believe in this theory also.

The way I see it, it's hard enough figuring the current mob today without arguing about things from the distant past. That said that it should be noted that saying Accardo was never the boss isn't necessarily the same thing as saying he didn't have the last word. After all, the thinking has always been Accardo had the final say even after he become consigliere. Something quite unique to him and that position.

^^^^^^^^The info on there is just goofy & false.

Accardo being Ricca's advisor LOL, absolutely laughable.

i will agree with you on that americanmafia.com is outta conrol. their message boards are fuckin horrible.

First of all, Paul Ricca is ten years Joe Batters' senior. The younger guys don't school the older guys, that's not how things work in the Outfit (unless you're name is Moe Giancana). Ricca was the one that brought Accardo into the Outfit, that brought him up through the ranks.

I would think thats how things work in a lot of mafia families..but 21st century gangsters are using computers now to steal simply said...its not the 1970s anymore

The AmericanMafia forum went to shit about 5 years ago. I'm surprised it's still up.

IVY the forum is still in a different language I just signed on c'mon man

Paul Ricca used to dress up like a women on friday nights

If you're talking about the AM board, don't say I didn't warn you.

yeah that board is nothing but sensless rambles etc etc etc. that and arguments....it used to be good thats where i first started posting!

Me too Phatty, for years it was my real only source for Cosa Nostra news for years (not that my interest has always remained the same, it goes in spurts of interest and fascination). Rick Porello does have some great stuff though, love the dude.

yeah Rick is a good guy. it just seems that the posters on his board are douches! i enjoyed his books. that movie to kill the irishman was ok....nothing great but nothing bad either!

Yeah, I started out over there too. I remember there being some good threads time to time. I liked his website too, with the histories of the various families.