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Re: Philly LCN update
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There might be a war soon. There's been a big conflict over some rackets and people breaking the chain of command.
A lot of people are ratting because of that huge oxycodone bust thats mobbed up...the media could have a field day with that when that goes to court
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Re: Philly LCN update
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Underworld Ganging Up? Feds say infamous Italian crews may be working out of South Philly eatery. by By Brendan McGarvey and Gabriele J. Valentine Sep 26, 2007
There's a little restaurant in South Philly that some consider a mafia hangout, but nobody in law enforcement is quite sure what mob the guys there belong to. Some patrons are Italian immigrants who regularly travel between South Philly and southern Italy. They speak English with thick Italian accents and a few dress more like European bankers than street-corner toughs.
The owner of the restaurant — which, for the time being, will go unidentified — is from somewhere in Italy. While a source claims the owner is from Naples, most of the owner's friends are Sicilian, and they treat the owner with "boss" deference. Says one eyewitness, there is "a lot of kissing on the cheeks and clasping of hands."
During the day, Italian immigrants from the neighborhood and men from as far away as Toronto and Naples visit the owner and his men. In several rooms above the restaurant, there are meetings, card games and parties almost every night. One law enforcement source tells City Paper the owner runs a loan-shark operation and construction company.
"The owner is back and forth between Philly and Sicily a lot," says one neighbor of the business located not too far from the stadiums. "He is involved in some shady international stuff."
But whatever the restaurant owner and his Sicilian boys are up to, they don't seem to have much interaction with the local Italian-American Mafia, allegedly run by Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi. At least one state law enforcement investigator thinks they're part of some other secret criminal organization from Italy.
"Could be Camorra or 'Ndrangheta," the source offers.
The Camorra — which means "gang" in Italian — originated in Naples as a prison crew some 200 years ago and is said to have 6,000 members. During the 1970s, the Camorra battled the 20,000-member Sicilian Mafia for control of the Italian underworld.
The 'Ndrangheta — which means "courage" in Italian — is based in Calabria and is said to have 5,000 members who generate more than $21 billion from illegal activities. Just last month, 'Ndragheta gunmen murdered six Italians in a pizzeria in Duisberg, Germany; the killings are part of a bloody feud between rival crime clans from Calabria vying to control Europe's cocaine trade.
For the most part, the Sicilian Mafia, Camorra and 'Ndrangheta put aside their differences 30 years ago to work together to run international drug-smuggling networks. That had a local and immediate effect. In July 1989, FBI agents arrested members of the Sicilian Mafia and the 'Ndrangheta with three pounds of heroin at a rest stop on I-95 in Delaware. At the same time, federal agents began documenting business meetings between leaders of a Sicilian Mafia group and an 'Ndrangheta gang operating out of Queens, NY. (The Sicilian Mafia had been meeting and working with various American crime families for generations.)
"We know these guys have been operating in the United States for more than 20 years now," an organized crime expert says. "The Mafia. The Camorra. The 'Ndrangheta. They're very dangerous. I just hope they haven't gotten a foothold here in South Philadelphia."
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Re: Philly LCN update
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20.000 member Sicilian Mafia? Thats big mistake in the article,Sicilian Mafia have around ~6000 made members and around 50,000 associates.All 4 groups(Camorra,'Ndrangheta,Cosa Nostra and Sacra Corona Unita) have like 20,000 made members.But i have seen much bigger mistakes in some articles like they are talking about murder of Salvatore Montagna and there is picture of Vinny Basciano
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Re: Philly LCN update
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Re: Philly LCN update
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20.000 member Sicilian Mafia? Thats big mistake in the article,Sicilian Mafia have around ~6000 made members and around 50,000 associates.All 4 groups(Camorra,'Ndrangheta,Cosa Nostra and Sacra Corona Unita) have like 20,000 made members.But i have seen much bigger mistakes in some articles like they are talking about murder of Salvatore Montagna and there is picture of Vinny Basciano Yeah, I don't get where they came up with that crazy number. It is about 6,000, you're right. I remember that picture mistake too. lol Also, I remember when Messina was captured in 2010, they were putting up pics of Messina-Denaro all over.
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Re: Philly LCN update
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Underworld Ganging Up? Feds say infamous Italian crews may be working out of South Philly eatery. by By Brendan McGarvey and Gabriele J. Valentine Sep 26, 2007
There's a little restaurant in South Philly that some consider a mafia hangout, but nobody in law enforcement is quite sure what mob the guys there belong to. Some patrons are Italian immigrants who regularly travel between South Philly and southern Italy. They speak English with thick Italian accents and a few dress more like European bankers than street-corner toughs.
The owner of the restaurant — which, for the time being, will go unidentified — is from somewhere in Italy. While a source claims the owner is from Naples, most of the owner's friends are Sicilian, and they treat the owner with "boss" deference. Says one eyewitness, there is "a lot of kissing on the cheeks and clasping of hands."
During the day, Italian immigrants from the neighborhood and men from as far away as Toronto and Naples visit the owner and his men. In several rooms above the restaurant, there are meetings, card games and parties almost every night. One law enforcement source tells City Paper the owner runs a loan-shark operation and construction company.
"The owner is back and forth between Philly and Sicily a lot," says one neighbor of the business located not too far from the stadiums. "He is involved in some shady international stuff."
But whatever the restaurant owner and his Sicilian boys are up to, they don't seem to have much interaction with the local Italian-American Mafia, allegedly run by Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi. At least one state law enforcement investigator thinks they're part of some other secret criminal organization from Italy.
"Could be Camorra or 'Ndrangheta," the source offers.
The Camorra — which means "gang" in Italian — originated in Naples as a prison crew some 200 years ago and is said to have 6,000 members. During the 1970s, the Camorra battled the 20,000-member Sicilian Mafia for control of the Italian underworld.
The 'Ndrangheta — which means "courage" in Italian — is based in Calabria and is said to have 5,000 members who generate more than $21 billion from illegal activities. Just last month, 'Ndragheta gunmen murdered six Italians in a pizzeria in Duisberg, Germany; the killings are part of a bloody feud between rival crime clans from Calabria vying to control Europe's cocaine trade.
For the most part, the Sicilian Mafia, Camorra and 'Ndrangheta put aside their differences 30 years ago to work together to run international drug-smuggling networks. That had a local and immediate effect. In July 1989, FBI agents arrested members of the Sicilian Mafia and the 'Ndrangheta with three pounds of heroin at a rest stop on I-95 in Delaware. At the same time, federal agents began documenting business meetings between leaders of a Sicilian Mafia group and an 'Ndrangheta gang operating out of Queens, NY. (The Sicilian Mafia had been meeting and working with various American crime families for generations.)
"We know these guys have been operating in the United States for more than 20 years now," an organized crime expert says. "The Mafia. The Camorra. The 'Ndrangheta. They're very dangerous. I just hope they haven't gotten a foothold here in South Philadelphia."
Ivy, do you remember a long time ago what I posted on Real Deal, and maybe here as well? I had said that Massimino had familial ties to Realmonte and Siculiana, Sicily. There are ties, blood and clan. And even one further, there are Massimino's of Sicily that are married with some Caruana/Cun trera's. Small world. So, according to this article now, it re-enforces what I was saying way back then. 
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Re: Philly LCN update
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01/18/12 05:17 PM
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Ivy, do you remember a long time ago what I posted on Real Deal, and maybe here as well? I had said that Massimino had familial ties to Realmonte and Siculiana, Sicily. There are ties, blood and clan. And even one further, there are Massimino's of Sicily that are married with some Caruana/Cun trera's. Small world. So, according to this article now, it re-enforces what I was saying way back then. Except the article says there doesn't appear to be any connection with the local LCN family. Of course, that doesn't mean there isn't. I'd be surprised if they didn't at least know each other. It would be nice to have more info beyond a brief article from the City Paper.
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