On June 29, 1971, Joseph Columbo, the boss of the Columbo Cosa Nostra Family, made his way to the platform to deliver his speech at the Italian-American Civil Rights League Rally in Columbus Circle. About three feet away was a black man holding a camera. Just as Colombo began to read his speech the black man threw down the camera, took out a pistol and shot Columbo three times in the back of the head and neck. The black man was apprehended immediately but while the police wrestled him on the floor, a man emerged from the crowd and shot the black man dead. This man managed to escape through the crowd. The black man was identified as Jerome Johnson.
Was it on the orders of Crazy Joe Gallo? Orders from Carlo Gambino? Did Gambino give the go ahead to Joe Gallo? Or Did Gambino..or someone else for that matter...hire a black man to shoot Columbo to make it look as though Crazy Joe was behind the hit?
Your thoughts?
Don Cardi
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Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633080 02/04/1202:57 PM02/04/1202:57 PM
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i believe it was a commison ruling that was brought up and ordered by gambino, given to gallo then farmed out to jerome johnson. i just wonder how they talked to johnson into doing this...he had to have known he was gonna die.
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Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633082 02/04/1203:00 PM02/04/1203:00 PM
Oldman Gambino was pissed that Colombo was drawing unnecessasary attention to LCN with his involvment in the Italian-American civil rights movement. Gambino would be my pick
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: GaryH]
#633086 02/04/1203:23 PM02/04/1203:23 PM
i believe it was a commison ruling that was brought up and ordered by gambino, given to gallo then farmed out to jerome johnson. i just wonder how they talked to johnson into doing this...he had to have known he was gonna die.
In my opinion I don't think that it was ever presented to the commission. But regardless if it was or wasn't, you believe that Don Carlo was indeed behind the hit and that he gave the contract to Crazy Joe to carry out. Ok.
Originally Posted By: GaryH
Oldman Gambino was pissed that Colombo was drawing unnecessasary attention to LCN with his involvment in the Italian-American civil rights movement. Gambino would be my pick
Ok. I tend to lean towards what you've said above.... and if that was the case then my question now becomes; Did Don Carlo PUT Crazy Joe up to it? Or did Don Carlo have it set up to make it look like Crazy Joe was behind it by using a black man?
Don Cardi
Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633089 02/04/1203:28 PM02/04/1203:28 PM
Oldman Gambino was pissed that Colombo was drawing unnecessasary attention to LCN with his involvment in the Italian-American civil rights movement. Gambino would be my pick
Ok. I tend to lean towards what you'e said above.... and if that was the case then my question now becomes; Did Don Carlo PUT Crazy Joe up to it? Or did Don Carlo have it set up to make it look like Crazy Joe was behind it by using a black man?
Mafia Dynasty says that the only white mobsters Johnson knew were the Gambinos. If anyone has an NYT archives subscription, there's also an article in the Joe Colombo references discussing this.
(p.s. if anyone's reading this props to Rogermx. He's cleaned up a lot of Wiki's mafia articles, including Colombo)
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633093 02/04/1203:40 PM02/04/1203:40 PM
Mafia Dynasty says that the only white mobsters Johnson knew were the Gambinos.
So from what you've posted I assume that you believe that Don Carlo set up the hit through his own people, using a black man to make it look like Crazy Joe was involved.
Don Cardi
Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Sonny_Black]
#633099 02/04/1203:49 PM02/04/1203:49 PM
I remember Turnbull stating that the New York police could have been behind the hit. I'm sure he can redirect us to that particular post, which was quite interesting.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633106 02/04/1204:01 PM02/04/1204:01 PM
Very interesting post. We can basically only speculate who was behind the Colombo downfall. It is frustrating that no one has managed to even come close to an explanation. (Don´t get me wrong. I mean the investigators back then...) The strange thing is that neither one of the many informants the FBI, for example, had disposal of had something valuable to offer. Sure, there has been talk of Gambino and the Gallos and there has been talk of conspiracies that points to the U.S. government. And as usual, when a case of this kind can not be resolved, somebody always mentions the "lonly madman" as the only perpetrator. But that´s to take the easy way out, isn´t it? In my opinion, Carmine Persico had most to gain from a Colombo rubb out. Although he was imprisoned when it happened, he may have had a hand in it all. Of course, the ultimate was to get people to believe it was the Gallos. In this way, I think, Persico managed to kill two birds with one stone. Also keep in mind that Colombo had betrayed his boss Magliocco by revealing his plans regarding the executions of Gambino and Lucchese before the Commission. When Colombo was appointed boss many high-ranking members, who previously had positions of power within the family and had been very close to both Magliocco and Profaci (some were relatives of them), were demoted to the rank of soldiers. In their world, and in their mindset, being demoted from a top guy to bottom of a barrel is devastating powerwise. What if the murder attempt on Colombo was a revenge for his betrayal and a result of his restructure back in 1963/1964?
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Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633107 02/04/1204:01 PM02/04/1204:01 PM
Mafia Dynasty says that the only white mobsters Johnson knew were the Gambinos.
So from what you've posted I assume that you believe that Don Carlo set up the hit through his own people, using a black man to make it look like Crazy Joe was involved.
I'm not sure myself - I haven't read anything disputing that Gallo threatened to start another gang war. Maybe it was like Tony Bananas and Angelo Bruno, kinda like you were saying, and Gallo thought he would have the Commission's backing.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: HairyKnuckles]
#633111 02/04/1204:15 PM02/04/1204:15 PM
Off the top of my head, I think that it was Joey Cantelupo who stated that after the shooting of Colombo, Gambino was very worried about a 1.ooo.ooo,oo dollar loan that Colombo had borrowed in order to invest into a loansharking operation would not be paid back. This doesn´t sound like Gambino wanted Colombo dead.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#633999 02/09/1207:21 PM02/09/1207:21 PM
While I believe that Joey Gallo was involved, I feel that Gambino was the main factor in this and the two of them had some type of agreement. I'm pretty sure that all the bosses wanted Colombo gone by that point and approved it, but keep in mind the other families had relatively weak bosses at the time. Genovese boss Tommy Eboli would be taken out the same year as Gallo, Tony Ducks was just getting out of the can and solidifying control of his family, and the Bonannos had been in shambles since Joe Bonanno was forced into retirement. Long story short, Carlo WAS the commission so he pretty much did whatever he wanted.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#694942 02/07/1312:02 AM02/07/1312:02 AM
It was Don Carlo and Jr. Persico. And they made it look like Crazy Joey Gallo was behind it (in order to set him up for later). Crazy Joey made a lot of connections with black thugs and gangsters while he was in the can, and everyone knew that. So Gambino and Persico used Jerome Johnson for the hit and got Colombo's bodyguard in on it to whack Johnson as soon as it was done.
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Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#694945 02/07/1312:04 AM02/07/1312:04 AM
And as far as Gambino saying that Colombo owed $1 million, maybe he did, but the Gambinos had all kinds of money loaned out. He probably gave that reason as a ruse. IMO.
*** il capo di tutti capi ***
"You'll never meet another guy like me if you live to be 5, 000." -John Gotti
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#694997 02/07/1306:40 AM02/07/1306:40 AM
Common guys,i cant understand why yall have to fall down in such a deep conversations and conspirasy theories?!?Just look at the hit!Who did the hit?!A black guy right?So yall wanna say that Persico or Gambino had the contact with the black population?!The story is obvious,Gambino or Persico(wich i dont belive it was him),they had a problem with Joe Colombo wich we all know what it was...so Gambino used Gallo for the hit and yall know Joey Gallo's history in prison right?!So after that Persico saw his chance to whack Gallo and take the top position.....and thats that!!!.....no wait maybe the Illuminati did it?!?!?
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Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Columbo?
[Re: Vigil]
#695014 02/07/1310:25 AM02/07/1310:25 AM
He was not trying to get out of the life actually he was trying to become the top guy in the family that is all he ever wanted from the days of Profaci to the days of Colombo.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#695019 02/07/1310:54 AM02/07/1310:54 AM
I love this song! Kinda hard to figure out the lyrics in this youtube version, but when reading them, one can see that they are strictly about Joey and his brothers:
Born in Red Hook Brooklyn in the year of who knows when Opened up his eyes to the tune of an accordion Always on the outside whatever side there was When they asked him why it had to be that way "Well" he answered "just because".
Larry was the oldest Joey was next to last They called Joe "Crazy" the baby they called "Kid Blast" Some say they lived off gambling and running numbers too It always seemed they got caught between the mob and the men in blue.
Joey, Joey King of the streets child of clay Joey, Joey What made them want to come and blow you away.
There was talk they killed their rivals but the truth was far from that No one ever knew for sure where they were really at When they tried to strangle Larry, Joey almost hit the roof He went out that night to seek revenge thinking he was bulletproof.
The war broke out at the break of dawn it emptied out the streets Joey and his brothers suffered terrible defeats Till they ventured out behind the lines and took five prisoners They stashed them away in a basement called them amateurs.
Joey, Joey King of the streets child of clay Joey, Joey What made them want to come and blow you away.
He did ten years in Attica, reading Nietzche and Wilhelm Reich They threw him in the hole one time for trying to stop a strike His closest friends were black men 'cause they seemed to understand What it's like to be in society with a shackle on your hand.
When they let him out in '71 he'd lost a little weight But he dressed like Jimmy Cagney and I swear he did look great He tried to find the way back into the life he left behind To the boss he said, "I've returned and now I want what's mine".
Joey, Joey King of the streets child of clay Joey, Joey What made them want to come and blow you away.
/// The original song, I think is 10 minutes long. A masterpiece!
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: HairyKnuckles]
#695030 02/07/1312:06 PM02/07/1312:06 PM
Yeah the youtube version is not clear,thanx for the lyrics.I remember my borther havin this song on a tape,dunno if there was any copy on a vinyl or somethin
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Don Cardi]
#695041 02/07/1312:43 PM02/07/1312:43 PM
I always thought it was gambino but if persico was in jail it would have been easy to reach out to a black inmate.he had a high profile so if he promised money or whatever y not believe him
One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: tommykarate]
#695043 02/07/1312:54 PM02/07/1312:54 PM
it was never really made clear what relationship gallo had with black gangsters after he was released. One informant did state that colombos house was being staked out by some black guys in a car and that colombo believed it was gallo trying to intimidate him. i think that gallo was the more likely culprit behind his killing, whether he got permission or not from gambino i dont know. The black guy they used was apparantly a hardcore criminal himself that would do things for a price.
Another theory ive seen a few times was that johnson may have been avenging the deaths of his friend and the guys girlfriend when they were killed by some colombo guys at a party where they were working as waiters. It would explain why he would take such a huge risk of getting caught or killed.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Scorsese]
#695068 02/07/1301:54 PM02/07/1301:54 PM
Theres some info that Johnson and Gallo knew each other from prison days,same with Nicky Barnes.So maybe Johnson was loyal to Gallo or he was crazy...as the infamous boss Marcello used to say "You only need a "nut" to do the job"...and theres a lot of "nuts" in the underworld
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: Scorsese]
#695094 02/07/1304:01 PM02/07/1304:01 PM
Another theory ive seen a few times was that johnson may have been avenging the deaths of his friend and the guys girlfriend when they were killed by some colombo guys at a party where they were working as waiters. It would explain why he would take such a huge risk of getting caught or killed.
Yes. That theory has started to grow on me too. I don´t remember ever reading Johnson having any connection to the Gallo gang, but he was once employed by a sleasebag who ran stripclubs for a Gambino associate, if I´m not mistaken. This seems to be the closest Johnson ever came to a mobster. I don´t think I´ve ever read he was in prison with Gallo, at least it doesn´t ring a bell with me. But he was close to the black couple who worked at a party (mentioned above by Scorsese), held by a guy named Russo, in NJ or Staten Island, I believe. This Russo was a Colomboo associate and became furious when he saw the black waiter dancing with a white woman at the party. A fight broke out and Russo killed the the black couple.
I have been trying to find the article describing the events, but can´t remember where I last read it. If Johnson shot Colombo as a revenge killing, then the Colombo hit was not Mafia related at all which could explain why no informant knew anything about it or no researcher or police investigation has come up with any substantial leads or any shred of evidence in this case. They all seems to have been looking the wrong way.
Re: Who Put The Hit On Joe Colombo?
[Re: HairyKnuckles]
#695114 02/07/1306:27 PM02/07/1306:27 PM
it does sound pretty plausible but why would he think to go straight after colombo why not russo.
Heres some stuff from the fbi files. On June 29 – the day after the Colombo shooting – Scarpa told G-men the following:
Informant continued that he has learned that JOHNSON was "a would be Black wise guy" and hung out in Greenwich Village. Informant said JOHNSON never had the reputation of being a militant or a "kook" and that JOHNSON had often visited social clubs and after hours joints in Brooklyn, NY. Informant said he heard that JOHNSON once befriended never forgets this and was the type of person who if approached correctly would "do anything" for a price.
Just weeks before Colombo was gunned down the mob boss told Scarpa that his home had been cased by an apparent crew of black gangsters, and on June 10 Scarpa recounted that conversation to the FBI:
On 6/10/71, informant advised that he had recently met with Joe Colombo at which time COLOMBO confided that during the previous week he had been told that a car containing a number of Negro individuals was observed circling his block many times in the early AM hours. COLOMBO stated it is well known that GALLO had become friendly with Negro hoodlums while incarcerated and also believes it is possible that GALLO has enlisted their aid at the present time. COLOMBO concluded however that it is his personal feeling at present that GALLO is merely trying to "intimidate and shake me up" by having such an obvious play utilized. COLOMBO stated he is continuing to press for massive turnout on 6/28/71.
Carlo Gambino was not alone in his growing frustration with Joe Colombo's personal battle against the FBI. Indeed, Colombo's own associates were distancing themselves from the mob boss according to Scarpa. For example, on 6/15/71, Scarpa recounted for the FBI a conversation he had with pornographer Nicholas Bianco who was severing his ties with Colombo to ally with the Patriarcas:
On 6/15/71, informant advised that on the previous day he had had a long conversation with NICHOLAS BIANCO at which time BIANCO expressed great disgust with COLOMBO who BIANCO characterized as "crazy." BIANCO made clear to informant that he intended to "pull away" from COLOMBO and in this regard had purchased a home in Providence and will make a gradual "withdrawal." Informant said BIANCO stated that "we are all going to be arrested, it is inevitable, there is no way out," obviously referring to the fact that COLOMBO was "putting heat" on everyone who is close to him.
Colombo had told Gambino that the Civil Rights League rally would be his "swan song" according to Scarpa but little did Colombo know at the time how prophetic his words would become. The day after the Colombo hit Scarpa told the FBI:
Informant continued that approximately thirty minutes prior to the time COLOMBO was shot he had a discussion with him during which time COLOMBO advised that although GAMBINO was not furnishing him any support for this rally that he had assured GAMBINO that this would be his "swan song" and that in the future he would take a back seat to all the IACRL activities devoting himself to humanitarian causes such as boys camps, hospitals and the like and would refrain from fighting the FBI. COLOMBO stated that they should therefore not be too disappointed if the rally was not a huge success that they had hoped for.