The fates of Willie Cicci, and of the Rosato Brothers, are really the only loose ends left in GF II. We don't know what happens to them. We know Tom at least considers the Rosatos enemies still, but Cicci is not mentioned. And we don't see the Rosato Bros gunned down on screen like Roth or see what happens to Cicci.

Given Willie Cicci's presence in the original Godfather III script, is it possible (canonically) that he was given a pass? The only reason he wasn't in the final GFIII is because the actor who played him, Joe Spinell, died before filming began.

It wouldn't be the first time a rat was given a pass--In real life, Willie Boy Johnson lived for about three years after it came out that he was a rat. He wasn't in any witness protection program, he was out on the streets on his own making money.

" Based on Gotti’s commitment to him, Johnson felt he was out of harm’s way. Although banned from the Bergin, Johnson was back living in the old neighborhood with his wife and children and working at a construction job. Johnson was also rumored to be dealing in drugs again.

In the wake of the Giacalone case, the FBI records were turned over to Gotti’s lawyers. The information confirmed that it was Johnson who led the authorities to Gotti when he was hiding after the McBratney murder. The information also revealed that Willie Boy had provided information that allowed the FBI’s Gambino Squad to build their narcotics case against Gene Gotti, Angelo Ruggiero, and the others.

Gotti bided his time in reacting to the disclosed information. If Gotti had a soft spot for his old friend it hardened during the summer of 1988. Apparently Johnson had also passed on information to the authorities about the son of imprisoned Colombo boss Carmine Persico. Reportedly Alphonse Persico challenged the Gambino family by questioning, “What are you waiting for?”

In discussing the murder plans with Gravano, Gotti was concerned about the hit team failing and forcing Johnson into government protection where he could give up even more incriminating information. The contract was given to Eddie Lino, an ex-Bonanno associate and one of the shooters in the Castellano killing. Lino reportedly “sublet the contract” to a cousin in the Bonanno Family. The cousin in turn gave the assignment to three Bonanno gunmen to carry out.

On August 29, 1988 the killers struck. At 6:05 a.m., as Johnson walked from his Flatland’s home in Brooklyn to his car, the gunmen fired nineteen rounds at him. Johnson was hit once in each thigh, twice in the back, and at least six times in the head. The hit team then dropped jack-like spikes on the street to prevent the possibility of pursuit.

Hearing the shooting, Johnson’s wife ran out screaming. She cradled his head in her lap, but Willie Boy had died instantly."

And what of the Rosatos? Did Michael take out his vengeance on them, or were they simply "small potatoes" as Roth would say?

And finally: What do you think became of the New York branch of the Corleone Crime Family after Pentangelli's death? Did Michael appoint some other Capo or what?

I have always wondered what happened to the crime family structure after Part 2. In the beginning we see Neri and rocco as mikes main capos. Frankie is the head of ther new York Branch. we also see a good amount of soldiers like Robert Nelenza and Gaetano De Luna in the beginning. By the end obviously Frankie and Cicci are out of the picture, rocco is dead, and many of the button men seem to be gone. I wonder what happens in the 60's. Joey Zasa seems to young at that point to be the street boss since Part 3 takes place in 79.

I too would love to know what happened. Maybe that could be the plot of IV. Anybody game? If Star Wars could indulge itself in prequels, why not the GF?

Arguably, Cicci wasn't as big an offender to Michael as Frankie was--Cicci said he never got a direct order from Michael. But Cicci violated omerta and damaged Michael by identifying him as the head of the family. That was before the Witness Protection Program. Cicci probably was assigned his own cell, or prison suite, in a Federal pen, as was Joe Valachi. Michael might have been able to have gotten to him, but I'm guessing that, after getting rid of Pentangeli and Roth, he might have determined that Cicci wasn't important enough to deal with.

The Rosatos were "on the run." They could have been a danger to Michael, but I'm guessing that, because they were involved in a shootout with the cops, and wounded or killed at least one, Michael may have found it prudent to let the NYC cops take care of the Rosatos.

As for NYC: A major question is, who succeeded Pentangeli as head of the Olive Oil Business? Probably not Zasa--he looked too young in 1979, in Part III, to have been a major player in late 1958, when Frankie was garotted and turned rat. While I don't think it would be in Michael's nature to simply walk away from NYC, he may have wanted to distance himself ever-farther from NYC following his close scrape with the Senate Subcommittee. That's not much of an answer, but I can't do better.

I agree about Zasa TB and that Michael would maintain his operational distance from NY. But he never let go of the strings. As Vincent said "You're like the Supreme Court."

About everything else, I lament the loss of Rosato Brothers Coffee. It was sooooo good.

I think it may have been Don Altobello.

Nah, Altobello owned the Genco Cannoli Company. Manolo the Gardener bought the Rosato Brothers Coffee business. Ask Oli: He knows Manolo intimately (but not in the Biblical sense).

Altobello wasnt a corleone. He had a close relationship to the corleones but he wasnt apart of their family

Indeed I do. But after he bought the coffee company, he got lazy as an executive, and the product quality declined. He shold have stuck to landscaping.

Ofcourse he was, he was Connie's Godfather. Pentangeli and Clemenza weren't part of the Corleone family yet they acted as boss.

You misinterpreted me. I meant he wasn't apart of the Corleone "crime family." Joey zasa took over the new york branch of teh corleone family. So yes altobello was still close to the corleones since he was connies godfather as you said but he was the boss of one of the other families. Thats not uncommon. Carlo gambinos son and tommy lucchese's daughter married and they headed different families

That's funny. Every friday I'm having cappuccino in a cafe in Berlin called "Manolo". Pretty good.