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NY families vs Canadian families
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I was wondering do the NY businesses do business with the Canadian families. Are they alliances or do they have problems with eachother? just wondering if they even associate at all?
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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04/26/12 02:28 AM
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and the mostly past connection between the Bonannos and Canada, I can't really think of anything nowadays. Based on what findings of yours? Do you see a lot of business interaction between the Rizzutos and the Bonannos? Even when there was more of a connection over a decade ago, it more or less amounted to an envelope getting sent down to NY every once in a while.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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im sure its not a coincidence like you were saying. If anything they make money together, and do there normal business activities.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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there are still what you say "rats"
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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Yes, but what do you mean by "involved?" Were/are some guys in the Rizzuto organization at least nominally Bonanno members? Yes. Do some NY guys and Canadian guys know each other? Yes. Was Rizzuto apparently in contact with people in New York when he said he didn't recognize Montagna as his boss? Yes. But Montagna getting involved in things up there probably had as much to do with the fact that he was deported there (since he was from there) as anything. Not necessarily the Bonannos becoming "involved."
Involved, to me, means being involved in the politics and/or rackets of the Rizzutos. The politics? That jury is still out on that to some degree. But the rackets? I can't really think of anything. The mob's scope, including the Bonanno family, has become smaller. The hub of the "Bonanno universe" is Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, etc. Heck, they have more "involvement" in Florida than they do in Montreal.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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Yes, but what do you mean by "involved?" Were/are some guys in the Rizzuto organization at least nominally Bonanno members? Yes. Do some NY guys and Canadian guys know each other? Yes. Was Rizzuto apparently in contact with people in New York when he said he didn't recognize Montagna as his boss? Yes. But Montagna getting involved in things up there probably had as much to do with the fact that he was deported there (since he was from there) as anything. Not necessarily the Bonannos becoming "involved."
Involved, to me, means being involved in the politics and/or rackets of the Rizzutos. The politics? That jury is still out on that to some degree. But the rackets? I can't really think of anything. The mob's scope, including the Bonanno family, has become smaller. The hub of the "Bonanno universe" is Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, etc. Heck, they have more "involvement" in Florida than they do in Montreal. this seems to be the most logical way to interpret things. seems to me that when montagna was deported he was on his own. in other words the bonnano family probably let it be known that if you get into any shit up there, its on you, dont come crying to us cause we got enough problems to deal with here. sure some guys from the two families might know each other, but serious monetary links between the two families just doesnt seem to exist anymore.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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Like me,Ivy and others have said before there is no evidence of contact Are you just trolling or what? Do you even read posts of people who might have a different view that yourself? There IS evidence of contact and I'm not even going to repeat everything I've already stated which you ignored to read. The strongest indications are that the Bonanno's are involved. Do I think the Bonannos have sent their own hit squads and enforcers to Montreal to take over? Ofcourse not. They have their own guys over there. No one in New York needs to be sent to Montreal to take care of business. And yes, Montagna was deported to Montreal, and once he was there he aligned himself with men who were eager to see a change of the guard. And that's what happened. No low-ranking member of the Bonanno family in New York is involved, that's almost certain. I think only the administration knows what's going on.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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05/01/12 12:34 AM
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I figure I'll put this question here instead of starting a new thread:
Does anyone know any details about the death of former WWE wrestler Dino Bravo? It happened in Montreal. In the wrestling world people know that he crossed the mafia and that's it.
Nothing in mentioned in "The Sixth Family". If anyone knows more about this story, I'd love to hear about it.
Thanks. FWIW, I remember something about him racking up a large gambling debt with the Cotroni faction and refusing the pay after numerous warnings. Sorry I know any of the details. I'm really curios about this myself.
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Re: NY families vs Canadian families
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this is for skinny vinny ive always been interested in why he was whacked and in canada heres what i found on wiki.....On March 10, 1993, Bresciano was found shot to death.[2] He was 44 years old. In all, 17 shots were fired, 7 to the head and 10 in the chest and abdomen area while watching hockey in his Vimont, Laval, Quebec home. It is widely believed that his alleged role in illegal cigarette smuggling in Canada led to his murder. Rick Martel has stated in interviews that because of Bresciano's notoriety from being a popular professional wrestler, he was able to attract many customers (specifically Aboriginals) to switch over to having him as a supplier of illegal cigarettes, thus crossing the mafia. According to various sources, right before his death Bresciano had confided to close friends that he knew his days were numbered. He was a nephew by marriage of Montreal crime boss Vic Cotroni, and was believed by authorities to be involved in his organization for some time.[8] Bresciano's remains are in a mausoleum at Notre Dame des Neiges Cemetery in Montreal, Quebec.[9] He is survived by his wife, Diane Rivest and their daughter Claudia
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