^^^yeah, I meantt Lance is the Capo for AC as ivyleague alluded to above

AC? Lance doesn't have a presence there...

Just did a quick check, i believe it is south philly. i was going off ivy's comment about ac

All of the remaining smaller families outside New York - Philly, Boston, New Jersey, Chicago - have 3 or 4 captains at this point.



He did at least back in the Borgata casino gambling bust.

yea most of the white people i grew up with were italian or irish.. and im sure some are makable but i dont know there status or anything i just know theyre dirty

Lets face it handsome stevie the guys that are around are pretty classy guys. They dont bother any innocent people or businesses. Ive been in southphilly all my life and i never heard of a innocent person or business being bothered by any gangster. That may be something the old time gangsters did in the 20s, was charge protection money. I think that they go after guys that are doing illegal stuff on their own and then actually come to them for protection after they get into a fued with someone else in the same racket. The old term they use is you always get invited to the funerals but no weddings. That means that when people are doing good illegally you never hear from them but when their doing bad. thats when they reach out to you.

Going after innocents is an easy way to get pinched. Someone in an illegal business would be a lot more hesitant to run to the police.

Still, Ligambi is a murderer. If they can't put him away for that, in my opinion it's right to put him away at least for minor crimes. Even if the victim wasn't really an angel, I don't think he deserved to die.

I agree with you, nobody deserves to lose their life

I disagree. There are some who don't deserve to live.

If they are really just plain old bad people then i guess your right

mazzone would kill you in a heartbeat if he had to and sleep like a baby. the guy was an animal in the 90s, classy wouldn't be the term I'd use.

yeah i believe it was the westside who wanted to pop ligambi and co using caprio to take over some rackets

centerino is 80 and he is out and free, a poster called louieb on the other side suggested beeps will step up as the capo for that crew

heres an update

A federal judge has refused to throw out a racketeering conspiracy charge against reputed mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and 10 codefendants.
U.S. District Judge Eduardo C. Robreno denied a defense motion Friday seeking to have the charge dismissed. The racketeering conspiracy allegation is the principal charge in a 52-count indictment.
Robreno said there was enough evidence to support the government allegations that the conspiracy existed, rejecting the defense argument that the case was built around a series of cobbled-together but unrelated criminal acts. Ligambi and seven top associates are being held without bail pending the trial, scheduled to begin on Oct. 9.
Robreno, who will preside over the trial, ruled on several other procedural motions Friday. Two key motions still pending are the government's request for an anonymous jury and a defense motion seeking to bar the playing over any tapes made by Nicholas "Nicky Skins" Stefanelli, a North Jersey mob figure who wore a body wire for the FBI for nearly two years. Stefanelli committed suicide earlier this year.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsy...mbi_case_1.html

Thanks Dap for the link. I think that it was wishful thinking that a judge would throw out that charge. The judge is gona let the jury decide

When i say classy i mean in bars they will by the bar a couple of rounds of drinks and in resturantes they will pick up checks and are very genorous when it comes to tipping

The Real Deal closed the books on me

You're right then, Beepsie will probably step up. He's still left with only one soldier, though. The thing is, Merlino only ever wants to make guys from Philly. So Jersey might get the shaft.

yeah i believe it was the westside who wanted to pop ligambi and co using caprio to take over some rackets

centerino is 80 and he is out and free, a poster called louieb on the other side suggested beeps will step up as the capo for that crew [/quote]

What was MAZZONE doing in the 90s ?

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besides a few posters on there the real deal is not all what others make it out to be, too many ignorant guys with too much time on their hands looking to start an internet beef for fun

who is that other made guy in nj besides beeps who is left?

The DePena's (If you say it real fast it sounds like the penis brothers.) Th reins they were passed to them by uncle joe. They decided by playing that ring toss game the one you play on the boardwalk that you know is somehwat rigged or odds are against you. Ligambi has a beak so hes an easy target They couldn't draw straws at the FDC so one of the inmates ripped the shower curtain down so the mob could plays it game using the shower rings

Hey Dickie, I thought the jokes were on another page, or maybe im getting to old to try to figure out what your saying!!

I asked this earlier but I don't think anyone answered. Can "Nicky Skins' " testimony be admissible if he's not around to corroborate? If he was the star witness, I feel like Ligambi and Co got a descent shot at beating this thing.

Also… does anyone have the Schratweiser/ Anastasia "Mob Talk" episode with the stock footage of Uncle Joe getting out of his black STS? I just bought one and my Mom keeps trying to tell me the big guy drives a Lincoln.

Frank M has fafr as I no the feds did say a while a go that bands its on tape what he said that's enough,nothing changes.You know sometimes it might be better[not saying its good he died] that guys like this don't take the stand because the jury may look at him as a low life career criminal just trying to save his neck.

Remember the family's been in two factions under Ligambi and Merlino most likely it's been Merlino's guys been stiring this shit up to get Ligambi indicted to take the top spot back

Yeah but Merlino-Ligambi regime isn't factioned like the Stanfa administration. They're buddies (a certain famous softball team comes to mind). I don't think Merlino was in any position to "stir the pot" while he was rotting in the pen. He was too busy learning the lesson of what an ego and a big mouth does to a boss. Just my .02.

I've heard conflicting reports on whether the Nicky Skins tapes can be used. Most sources says they will be used, but I also read that the only recordings that be used without Nicky testifying are the ones where the FBI documented the time/date and have surveillance photos of.

Either way, the tapes become a little weaker without Nicky testifying. Philly guys got a little (much needed) break.