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Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions #654299
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I know about him since he became a Lucchese, but I'm interested in his time in Philly. I'm guessing he was running with guys since he was a teen given his dad? Was he and when was he made into Philly? Was he a soldier? Captain? Who did he run with in Philly? Was he close to Scarfo young guys like Pungitore, Grande? etc.
I know there are many knowledgeable Philly guys on here so does anyone have info/stories on Scarfo Jr that isn't on the web?

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Also, was wondering if he went to New Jersey after his father got locked up to avoid being "taken out" for the new breed...

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he was not made or anything.


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Re: Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions [Re: NickyScarfo] #654327
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He never got down in philly. He hung around vinny iannece, tommy scafidi among others, he was also close with merlino before the falling out scarfo. He wasn't very well liked by anyone, no one shed a tear the night he got shot up besides his pop.

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I´m not positively sure, but it seems like Scarfo Jr, for a short period of time, functioned as crew leader in the Lucchese Family. Either as an acting capo or as an official capo. Sometime around 2006, or 2007 he was replaced by Ralph V. Perna.
There are conflicting stories on when he was made with the Luccheses. Some say already in 1986, which doesn´t make any sense because he must have been with the Philadelphia Family back then. Considering he was shot at in 1989, and his father wanted him to join the Luccheses for his own protection, he was most likely made with the Luccheses shortly after he was shot. So I figure sometime in 1989 or 1990.


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One thing I do know, that dude has aged real badly! That picture of him with the slicked back hair from his 20s to now...

Re: Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions [Re: NickyScarfo] #654351
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Scarfo Jr was made in 1994 along with Joseph “Big Joe” Datello I believe.

The Merlinos had a bad falling out with the Scarfos in 1986. Soon after Scarfo and most the family were taken down in indictments. Scarfo began using his son to pass messages and collect of some of the street tax but by then Joey Merlino, Mike Ciancaglini and their crew were doing their own thing and no longer recognizing Scarfo so they tried to kill Nicky Jr in 1989. They shot him several times but he survived. To get him out of Philly Scarfo Sr. placed him in the North Jersey Crew. Soon after that Nicky Jr was imprisoned for the Freselone operation. By the time he got out Merlino and his Crew had taken over the family and would have clipped Nicky Jr. if he had returned so Scarfo Sr got him transferred and made into the Lucchese family as protection.

Scarfo Jr was acting Captain of the Lucchese Jersey crew until 2007 (for the imprisoned Capra) when he was demoted by the Lucchese ruling panel (Madonna, DiNapoli, Migliore) in favor of Ralph Perna. Joe Perna (all of them hate Jr,, they are good friends with Merlino) drove to tell Nicky Scarfo Jr the news of his demotion and said he was a "motherless fuck" on the way. After being demoted, Scarfo Jr immediately asked to move to Florida which was denied I believe.

Scarfo Jr is a ridiculous earner, look at his most recent indictment. Charged with looting $12 million out of that bank in Texas.

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Re: Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions [Re: NickyScarfo] #654371
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i read somewhere that when scarfo was released from jail in 2000 or 01 (joe bagels was acting boss) he was made in to the luchese this makes since because he was lockd up when merlino was running philly after stanfa i guess he was made a associate in 94 in the jersey crew. think in 94 casso fliped so i dont think they made people plus scarfo would only be in his 20tys?

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Scarfo was made (by Joe DeFede) shortly after he got out of jail in 1994 along with Carlo Tacetta as a favor to their fathers for protection.


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The pernas don't hate nicky jr because of merlino, they hate him because he's not one of them (hence "motherless fuck"), hes a philly guy who's only with them cuz his pop cut a deal with amuso. He'll always be an outsider up there. Him being a skipper for a little bit only pissed them off more.

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Originally Posted By: Chucky
The pernas don't hate nicky jr because of merlino, they hate him because he's not one of them (hence "motherless fuck"), hes a philly guy who's only with them cuz his pop cut a deal with amuso. He'll always be an outsider up there. Him being a skipper for a little bit only pissed them off more.


well obcourse theres that, the merlino bit is icing on the cake

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Re: Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions [Re: Dapper_Don] #654405
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Scarfo was made (by Joe DeFede) shortly after he got out of jail in 1994 along with Carlo Tacetta as a favor to their fathers for protection.


That's a long time to pass between Halloween '89 and 1994. From what I understand didn't most of the New York guys (I mean it's really only the Genovese that have say in Philly) detest Merlino in favor of Stanfa?


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Excerpt from a old news article I stumbled on today:

Investigators were watching Aug. 9 when Ralph Perna and his son, Joseph, met at a diner in the Bronx with DiNapoli.

And authorities were listening minutes later when Joseph called his brother John to tell him that their father had been tapped to replace Scarfo as head of the New Jersey branch of the crime family.

"He's the new captain," Joseph Perna told his brother, adding, "Tomorrow I'm going down to tell the other kid he's demoted."

John, laughing, said, "I bet you're all broken up about that."

The brothers then referred to media reports raising the possibility that Scarfo Jr. might make a move against those controlling the Philadelphia crime family his father Nicodemo once headed.

That was part of the reason he was being demoted, they said.

Two days later, investigators used the GPS hidden in Joseph Perna's Infiniti to track him to a meeting on the Garden State Parkway with Scarfo Jr.


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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Scarfo was made (by Joe DeFede) shortly after he got out of jail in 1994 along with Carlo Tacetta as a favor to their fathers for protection.


That's a long time to pass between Halloween '89 and 1994. From what I understand didn't most of the New York guys (I mean it's really only the Genovese that have say in Philly) detest Merlino in favor of Stanfa?


He got pinched in the Fresolone case, he wasn't with the lucchese until he got out of the joint for that.

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I see


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Re: Nicodemo Scarfo Jr Questions [Re: NickyScarfo] #698607
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Anyone see his most recent indictment?

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2011/Scarfo,%20Nicodemo%20et%20al.%20Indictment.pdf

Anyone have any idea on the status or possible prison term with this one? Actually a fairly complicated white color crime for the LCN.

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On October 31, 2011, Scarfo was arrested by the FBI for what the agency said was his role in the attempt to take over and embezzle millions of dollars out of FirstPlus Financial Group. Scarfo's wife, Lisa Murray-Scarfo, was also indicted in the scheme, along with alleged Lucchese mob associate Sal Pelullo and several officials of FirstPlus. Scarfo's father and Victor Amuso were named as unindicted coconspirators.[6] Federal authorities said Scarfo and his associates took $12 million from the loan mortgage company and used the money to buy luxury automobiles, houses, a jet aircraft, jewelry, and a yacht they named "Priceless".[69] U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman said Scarfo used his proceeds to buy a $715,000 home, $25,000 in jewelry for his wife, a $100,000 Audi automobile, and mortgage payments on a home owned by his ex-wife.[70][71] Fishman also alleged that Scarfo and his associates forced FirstPlus to pay $6 million and give 1.6 million shares of stock to Scarfo and Pellulo in exchange for two companies (Globalnet Enterprises and Rutgers Investment Group) that had almost no value.[70] Prosecutors said they had 7,500 recorded telephone conversations[72] in which Scarfo discussed his illegal activities, including one in which he talked about faked documents to hide his involvement and another in which he boasted of a $36,000-a-month consulting contract for which he performed no work.[73] They said Scarfo earned $450,000 from his consulting contract, which ran from June 2007 to April 2008.[70] While Scarfo's wife was allowed to post bail, federal district court judge Robert Kugler refused to allow Nicky Scarfo, Jr. to post bail because he was allegedly a danger to the community[74] Scarfo asserted in court that he was destitute and could not afford an attorney.[69] U.S. District Magistrate Ann Marie Donio appointed public defender Michael E. Riley for him.[75] Scarfo appealed the denial of bail on December 18,[72] but Judge Kugler denied bail again two days later.[76] The FBI placed Scarfo in solitary confinement in the Special Housing Unit at the Federal Detention Center in Philadelphia to protect him from rival mobsters who attempted to kill him in 1989.[73] Judge Kugler urged the government to put Scarfo into the general prison population, per Scarfo's request.[73]
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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Scarfo JR didn't really hang around with many of those guys before his father got put away aside from summer times at the Jersey Shore. He was really considered an outsider by the younger guys like Merlino and the Changs because he #1 grew up and lives in AC not South Philly and #2 he didn't earn respect from the rest of the guys because he wasn't making the kind of moves those guys were out on the streets, he got what he got from being the son of the boss.

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He lives in Toms River now if i remember right... He is close to The Andy Catnip.

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True but there was a time when they were close. Leonetti talks about it in his book a little bit.

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Andy catnip aka andy knapik, aka andrew knapik aka andrew "i got my hand stuck in the toaster" merola........

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Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Scarfo JR didn't really hang around with many of those guys before his father got put away aside from summer times at the Jersey Shore. He was really considered an outsider by the younger guys like Merlino and the Changs because he #1 grew up and lives in AC not South Philly and #2 he didn't earn respect from the rest of the guys because he wasn't making the kind of moves those guys were out on the streets, he got what he got from being the son of the boss.


Fact of the matter is Scarfo Jr has turned out to be 10 times a better mobster then anyone in Philly for years, just look at the money the guy makes, that idiot Merlino missed a trick by trying to kill him, Joey has to be the worst boss in LCN history.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
He lives in Toms River now if i remember right... He is close to The Andy Catnip.

Who Scarfo jr? Last i heard before he was arrested he was living in Egg Harbor which is right outside of AC.

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No your right! It is Egg Harbor, i got my wires crossed thnx bro

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
No your right! It is Egg Harbor, i got my wires crossed thnx bro

I think that was the house the feds seized from him after his arrest. His mother and brother Mark live in Galloway Township which is right near Egg Harbor.

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I would have loved to have heard the conversation between Amuso and Scarfo in the can and I wonder what it cost him..


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No your right! It is Egg Harbor, i got my wires crossed thnx bro

I think that was the house the feds seized from him after his arrest. His mother and brother Mark live in Galloway Township which is right near Egg Harbor.
Did the one brother ever wake up from his coma or did he pass away?

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Not sure honestly. Think he passed. One brother changed his name to get away from the Scarfo "legacy"..

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Originally Posted By: Skinny
Not sure honestly. Think he passed. One brother changed his name to get away from the Scarfo "legacy"..

Mark Scarfo is alive and lives with his mother. I think he's still pretty much comatose though. I read somewhere a live-in nurse takes care of him at his mothers place.

Right Skinny...Chris Scarfo changed his last name to Ferry which is his wifes maiden name. He has a few son's i think and one of them looks just like Nicky Jr to me. lol

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Mark is alive he is in Ventnor Heights with his mom Mimi


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Nick jr. lived in egg harbor (Township) right across the street from Dolce Vita restaurant. Not (egg harbor) to different towns about 10 miles from each other.

Jr.for the most part stayed in A.C. so all the things in the other posts are right . The philly kids came to A.C. This is why he was not welcome up north or in philly (silver spoon thing)

The reason he was a good earner cus he was a good listener.
Sr. was LCN 24/7 and it did not stop in front of him.
The guys came to A.C. and he was like a sponge listening and
learning from the older guys (he was always sharp when it came
to things and kept ears open and his mouth shut..

You can only imagine when sr started to turn on the philly
guys what this kid had to endure . He was not a man just a kid
when it started then he really stayed close.He was not a child
but not a man yet.


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