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Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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I really don't want to attach "heart" to MJ because let's admit it, before he died most of us (well at BB.Net) probably assumed he was a pedophile. If he wasn't in this magical best case scenario, he was just a cuckoo clock celebrity who liked taking photos of his penis. (Which for him is probably one of the least strange things he's ever done, I can't decide if that's a good tihng or not.)
But I do respect that he did actually earn his fortune on his own from being one of the more successful pop stars in history (and reportedly blew it.) The same with Janet, the rare celebrity sibling who had her own very successful career.
The rest of them, they're deadbeat parasites hanging on to their successful siblings (and their money). RR, I agree with what you are saying. I have only a few albums/cassettes of MJs and agree that the guy was a great talent without a doubt. YET, I actually stored those albums away and have not listened to them in years. Anyway, I heard Randy Jackson who called into the radio station yesterday saying it was NOT about money and that MJ's will was signed at a time MJ was not in the area. He suggests the lawyers are trying to profit. Who knows, BUT it's hard to believe that money has nothing to do with it. I also wonder if Mrs. Jackson who's supposedly visiting someone in AZ, is being deliberately kept from seeing MJ's kids. Paris evidently texted that she wanted to talk to her grandma and the family wasn't letting her. Sounds very very dysfunctional to say the least. Then again, we are talking the Jackson family. TIS
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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I really don't want to attach "heart" to MJ because let's admit it, before he died most of us (well at BB.Net) probably assumed he was a pedophile. If he wasn't in this magical best case scenario, he was just a cuckoo clock celebrity who liked taking photos of his penis. (Which for him is probably one of the least strange things he's ever done, I can't decide if that's a good tihng or not.)
But I do respect that he did actually earn his fortune on his own from being one of the more successful pop stars in history (and reportedly blew it.) The same with Janet, the rare celebrity sibling who had her own very successful career.
The rest of them, they're deadbeat parasites hanging on to their successful siblings (and their money). the family that accused michael in '94-'95 was hanging out with michael and giving them a lot of things. then michael stopped when they demanded more, and they accused him of abusing there boy. at the time michael was suppose to go on tour, and his people told him to settle out of court or they will lose money for missed concerts. michael wanted to fight it, but agreed to settle. then sometime in 2002 or 2003 he let somebody document him and his side of the story. but, once again he got used and the filmmaker spun the film to make michael look really bad and that he abuses boys. also to i believe the police station in 2004 took those pics, not michael.
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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the family that accused michael in '94-'95 was hanging out with michael and giving them a lot of things. then michael stopped when they demanded more, and they accused him of abusing there boy. at the time michael was suppose to go on tour, and his people told him to settle out of court or they will lose money for missed concerts. michael wanted to fight it, but agreed to settle. then sometime in 2002 or 2003 he let somebody document him and his side of the story. but, once again he got used and the filmmaker spun the film to make michael look really bad and that he abuses boys.
also to i believe the police station in 2004 took those pics, not michael. MJ was a pedophile, Bam. Period. You can spin it any way you like, but you're basically saying, Oh, he might have touched a couple of kids, but the media turned it into more than it was. The truth is, if he touched even one kid (and I believe that he did), then he was as low a human being as there is. But I do agree with you about that kid's parents. They basically sold their son into sexual slavery, and they should fucking die for it. And for the record, I was a huge fan of his from the early Jackson 5 days. I was born in 1959, and they were to my generation of 12 year old what Miley Cyrus was to hers a few years ago. Except they all had talent. That little bimbo can't even sing a little bit.
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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the family that accused michael in '94-'95 was hanging out with michael and giving them a lot of things. then michael stopped when they demanded more, and they accused him of abusing there boy. at the time michael was suppose to go on tour, and his people told him to settle out of court or they will lose money for missed concerts. michael wanted to fight it, but agreed to settle. then sometime in 2002 or 2003 he let somebody document him and his side of the story. but, once again he got used and the filmmaker spun the film to make michael look really bad and that he abuses boys.
also to i believe the police station in 2004 took those pics, not michael. MJ was a pedophile, Bam. Period. You can spin it any way you like, but you're basically saying, Oh, he might have touched a couple of kids, but the media turned it into more than it was. The truth is, if he touched even one kid (and I believe that he did), then he was as low a human being as there is. But I do agree with you about that kid's parents. They basically sold their son into sexual slavery, and they should fucking die for it. And for the record, I was a huge fan of his from the early Jackson 5 days. I was born in 1959, and they were to my generation of 12 year old what Miley Cyrus was to hers a few years ago. Except they all had talent. That little bimbo can't even sing a little bit. that's understandable, i really cant argue over this anyway because i was either two or three...maybe four when the first case happened. second trial i remember watching and thinking that he will be found guilty (because at the time i thought the media was right 100% of the time and totally unbiased). i do agree with on miley cyrus not having talent though.
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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The news is reporting that the Jackson kids now have a new temporary guardian. TJ Jackson, son of Tito Jackson. Per the judge, Mrs. Jackson did nothing wrong but until she returns TJ is their guardian. I just have a feeling something more is going on. TIS Btw, they just had a news report on our local station. They said that this is a Temporary thing and that the person next in line for permanent custody should Mrs. Jackson not be able to, is Diana Ross. I think I remember that being mentioned after MJs death when they were talking about the will. http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/story/2012-07-25/jackson-temporary-guardian/56481322/1
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Yea, I am wondering about Katherine's health. I've not heard anything but she is older and there could be any number of health issues. As Off the Wall (no pun intended)  and odd as MJ was & as much as we know he had "Issues', it says a whole hell of a lot that out of the huge family he came from there was only one person he trusted with his children not to mention NOT leaving any money to them. TIS
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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to be fair about MJ's pedophile reputation, I'm fully convinced (after an excellent reporting piece by Vanity Fair) that the first public accusation was a false, successful blackmail operation. As for the 2nd accusation, whatever we think of that, he was acquitted by a jury. I used to think too many of those jurors got star-crossed eyes, but all 12 of them? Doesn't mean he didn't, but the verdict stands. Will we ever fully know the truth? Who knows. (Even in the best case situation where he wasn't, MJ certainly gave people ammo like that infamous "sleeping" comment.) As for why Janet is sticking with those parasites, who knows? We really don't know the real story of that dysfunctional family soap opera. (Anybody remember years back that tabloid story about Janet's own secret love child?) Take this from TMZ today. Prince Jackson: My Grandma was Mentally AbusedMichael Jackson's eldest child is putting his relatives on blast -- particularly Janet Jackson -- by posting what he claims is an angry group text message convo about his grandmother Katherine Jackson. Katherine returned from Arizona late last night, but a few hours later Prince Jackson sent out a tweet that included the text message, dated July 23rd (Monday). In it Prince says, "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!" A reply from "Janet Jackson" reads ... "Don't let them pls." It appears the message continued, but Prince did not post the rest of it. In his tweet Prince also says, "Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt." He continues, "For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth.” Prince added a reference to his father -- "As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways." http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/26/prince-jackson-text-message-twitter-post-katherine-jackson/
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Wow, I wonder why Gladys Knight is getting into this mess?  Is she a friend of the family? Anyway, I have a feeling this is a money grab on the part of the Jackson family. I doubt it'll go away anytime soon. TIS
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Wow, I wonder why Gladys Knight is getting into this mess?  Is she a friend of the family? Anyway, I have a feeling this is a money grab on the part of the Jackson family. I doubt it'll go away anytime soon. TIS i believe she is (either with janet or jermaine, maybe michael). but, really though paris is acting more mature then any of the adult, which is kind of sad.
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Oh and I heard Randy Jackson who called in to a local radio show, say that the will was not valid because MJ was out of town when the will was signed and suggested it was NOT MJs signature. I don't know the legalities, BUT I would think with something so serious as a will both Jackson & his attorneys would make sure a signature is valid. Plus, Wills must have a witness no? Someone would have to had witnessed it. Also, these days, you can sign things electronically (ie Income tax returns)and that could be the case. Don't know if they do that with wills. I don't know. If that's all they got I just got a feeling they are grasping at straws. PLUS the fact that MJ left the kids to his mom and nothing to the family members says a whole hell of a lot IMHO. TIS
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Re: Katherine Jackson has Been Reported Missing
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Oh and I heard Randy Jackson who called in to a local radio show, say that the will was not valid because MJ was out of town when the will was signed and suggested it was NOT MJs signature. I don't know the legalities, BUT I would think with something so serious as a will both Jackson & his attorneys would make sure a signature is valid. Plus, Wills must have a witness no? Someone would have to had witnessed it. Also, these days, you can sign things electronically (ie Income tax returns)and that could be the case. Don't know if they do that with wills. I don't know. If that's all they got I just got a feeling they are grasping at straws. PLUS the fact that MJ left the kids to his mom and nothing to the family members says a whole hell of a lot IMHO. TIS yea michael did have a witness when he signed his will. funny thing is even if they throw the new will out, the old will michael had still cuts his family members out. i think they are just trying to screw over michaels kids or something.
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