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Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Since the Ndrangheta or the Calabrian Mafia have a very strong influence on the European Cocaine trade and dominate it, is it possible that they supply a lot of GB's cocaine? I know they have a strong presence in the rest of Europe especially Germany but we almost never hear about the Mafia here in Britain. I read a few articles about them having some money laundering operations here but are they involved in any other rackets? Do they not have a solid base here in GB where they control drugs? maybe even other rackets like extortion and so on..
Thanks for your help guys.
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Impressive map Strax, Where did you get this? I wonder all together how many members of all the mafias are in the UK
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Yeah, probably as contacts to the groups already operating in GB. GB already has a large crime scene. Homegrown British 'Firms', Yardies, Nigerians, South Asians, Triads, Black British and Somali gangs, Turkish and Kurdish clans, Albanian mobs,...it's already overpopulated there lol.
And regarding the homegrown crime firms : the Adams from Islington, the Hunts from Canning Town, Liverpudlian and Manchester clans,...I would never ever mess with those guys
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Thanks for the Info guys. Yeah, I've also only heard that the Italian clans only use GB for money laundering and since there are already established organized crime groups in the UK, the Italian clans even if they did want to set up there, they probably would have to fight a few violent gangs wars which they probably don't want because they want to keep things more quiet. I don't think they'd have any difficulty though in taking out their rivals, I think it's all a matter of secrecy and being low key. However how come in Britain there are never really any gang wars, with the amount of crime groups here, they aren't violent at all when compared to other countries...
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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However homicide rates are extremely low, lowest since the 60s presently, last year there was under 150 murders for the whole of London, a city of 7 million. what about other violent crime such as assaults/robberies? i here that kind of crime is pretty common in london. Yeah not too sure on that, just know you got to be careful not to be influenced by the media on crime, same in America, homicides are way down there too generally though often the media would have you believe your in Baghdad.
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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As for Germany, the Ndrangheta is very strong there, but also behind the curtains. The criminal activities of German Hells Angels, Albanian, Turkish, Russian and Serb mobs or Mhallami family clans are much more visible. in germany italian turkish and serb organized crime are the most active among foreign groups in gb there are little activities but in london there are several italian fugitives living there
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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Shootings in suburbs happen regularly.
In terms of violence between the homegrown firms...they happen and it gets just as messy as stuff in other countries.
George Bromley from Liverpool for instance used to tax rival drug lords. His favourite method was kidnapping a rival and putting a red hot iron to the guy's scrotum. Also in Liverpool rivals shoot each other to pieces regularly. The same things happen in Manchester.
In London there was a crime firm from the East End which moved into the drug's business by violently hijacking other drug lords and dealers. This included kidnapping the guy and taking him away to a cellar after which they smashed the guy to pieces with a sledgehammer. Read the book Judas Pig by Horace Silver if you want to know more about this firm. It's a novel but it's based of situations that really did happen. The same firm also once tortured a guy in a slaughterhouse for two weeks, cutting him to pieces slowly, after which they burned him while he was still, but barely alive.
Notoriously gruesome things happen in Great Britain. Just as bad as the things that happen in the USA or Italy. Stats say otherwise. Detroit had more murders in 2010 than London and Manchester combined, with a tenth of the population. So no, they don't have as many acts of violence in the UK as they do in the USA. Feel free to show the stats that say otherwise.
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Re: Does the Italian Mafia have any connections in GB?
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the lebaneses are not even close to turkish in germany As for homegrown OC in Germany, never underestimate the German Hells Angels yes they are among the domestic groups
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But there's no denying in the fact that crime in Britain is pretty bad. Maybe not as bad as the USA, but still pretty bad. And the thing is, wherever there's crime in Belgium, Scandinavian countries, etc...they always put the blame on immigrants. But in Great Britain a lot of the indigenous people also seem to be involved in a lot of crime.