if there is no hockey this year im gonna cry.... do you think they'll be a season

Yes, but I think they may lose a month or so.

Yeah i see it happening. It's funny, i have no sympathy for either side. What i really want, my pipe dream, is to have the players scale back their salary, and have the owners scale back on the price of tickets. If they did that, i'd finally be able to afford a ticket! LOL

The owners are just greedy pieces of shit who dont care abouf the game

are they really doing this?! i guess in the end MLB is really smart because both sides agreed that the lockout/strike really hurt them.

its kind of sad though, it looked like they were going to challenge the nba/mlb

or even NFL for that matter. That was page 1 news on Sportscenter, but NHL lockout? Might as well've been beach volleyball. (Chalk it up to ESPN also still mad over the last lockout which ended their NHL contract.)

Remember when hockey was the 4th national sport in America? Now I can safely say it's what, 8th?

1)NFL
2)MLB
3)NBA
4)Golf
5)Tennis
6)NASCAR (actually any racing series)
7)Soccer
8)NHL

makes sense if you do count NASCAR as a sport. also to pass NFL is just guessing and personal preference

Personally, I will miss the NHL games even if they cancel 1 game of this season. I like the Bulls and will watch them if the Blackhawks are not on but all in all I love to see the Hawk games in the winter. I hope they do figure out a compromise and settle this soon.

Anytime i see any member of both sides talk, i just get angry. Bettman and his smartest-guy-in-the-room routine make me want to smack him around. Fehr's "oh these players have families to provide for" bit drives me up the wall. The owners are greedy, but goddamn so are the players. How about non-guaranteed contracts? Doesn't the NFL have those? I'm not an avid NFL fan, but i remember someone mentioning that. Players want to get paid, sure..pay them as much as they want. The minute they decline, buh-bye charlie (sheen).

its more the owners faullt. and the players should get paid more without them the leagues nothing. the owners are replacable but the players arent

Actually its the opposite. New players are being raised every minute.

Sports talk radio in Chicago was talking about a lot of players looking for opportunities in Europe until the lock out is lifted. Blackhawks' Toews is one of them...

Yeah i've been catching some articles here in Toronto saying the same. One of the names is Mr. Nhl Poster-boy Himself.....Sydney Crosby. In response to NIcky, i read something in the Toronto Sun about how replacements may be used as a scare tactic.

Day 72 and no end in sight!

The players and the owners deserve to have no one show up whenever this is resolved. No matter who wins (or ties) at the end of this negotiation, it won't translate to more affordable tickets for fans. The pricing of Leafs games is horrible. Once upon a time a wonderful way to go out with the family, now you need a loan to get nosebleeds. Let's not even talk about trying to buy a beverage or food.

I see no end of it. Both sides are greedy pieces of shit

SCORE!!!

Bettman has to be the worst commissioner in American pro sports history if he lets TWO whole seasons get wiped out during his term.

You can say that again. I put the blame completely on the commissioner and greedy owners.

players fault too

What did the players do? They aren't striking. They're playing under the terms forced upon them the last time they were locked out a few years ago. Now the owners want even more back, and are locking them out again. This is the 3rd time since the mid 90's they've pulled this shit.

they're greedy

games cancelled through dec 30th
my guess is if they dont agree with the next offer whole season is over

Not looking very promising for a season at all. Part of my Winter ritual is when Mrs. Mark is off at school, me and my dog order a pizza and watch The Blackhawks. I like The Bulls but loves me some Hawks. It's a shame that they can't figure this all out...

When the hawks were good the year before they won the cup, I was interested in hockey. That interest is gone now...this is the third lockout with the same commissioner. They might as well make a new league for hockey.

games cancelled through January 14th. Over half the season

The season is DEAD.

To be honest i saw half as many games these last seven years than i did the 7 years prior to the last lock out. Sure, some could blame the lack of success the Maple Leafs have had. In truth, that one year really annoyed me. This year though, i don't feel very much.

For the first time in 20 years the Blue Jays are giving us something to talk about. So F**k the NHL and its greedy owners and players.

One of the very few times i never read the prior post before posting..LISTEN UP nhl players and now the GREEDY owners..!.Kinda of Recession the last 4-5 years..People aint workin and its winter, construction automaticly slow..No people aint jumpin off buildings,yet... BUT THE NERVE an now the players were ready but it is the Owners holdin stuff up espn was hinting..But to be 21-40yr old and prime of your life and to get the chance to play a PROFESSIONAL sport,and make good money,Kinda bad holdn out..Now i believe top nhl'ers get 4-5M a year..And average and goons get the least at 70,000-500,000$ to 600,000-2m for average ones..If im wrong im sorry but i know it aint like mlb or nfl..{but nhl does have half amount of people watching compared to mlb nfl nba probally mma}And yea 82 games aint easy with the nfl type hits taking place on the ice.. But if they want somethin get back to the rink at least 35-40 games would be nice this year.. and then renogeshate again in the offseason agian..It would sat sumthin to the fans to hurry up and play a few games and like i said then in the offseason..Then try to make a better deal in the offseason ..

Well said.. yea you got a pitching staff to watch this year like us in philly..but your staff is a little younger..Yankees have someone different to be worried about..Now the Jays need a Jessie Barfield for the lineup...Also Yea i remember Mattis Sundin and Tie Domi..HaHA Tie got his a$$ kicked by a drunk from Havertown in the penality box/stands when in philly back around 2005.. i know you remember..Naa believe me at 5'9'' Domi could really fight i seen him ko a few guys on the ice..I know you seen some of his kos..But i cant believe i heard a guy from Canada say his hockey watchin is droppin off the last couple of years..Cause mine has dropped drasticly..I watch the history n discovery even nba sometimes..It is ashame cant explain it i just dont feel like watching any hockey anyway??