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Sicilian mobster and Football
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10/05/12 09:55 AM
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I watch alot of Italian football and I wonder whether mobsters in Naples and in Sicily are members of the ultra groups of the football clubs like Napoli Catania amd Palermo. Or whether mob bosses attend the stadiums in the platinum part?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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10/06/12 10:24 AM
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Cheers guys. m2w, were the football clubs run by mafiosi presidents in serie a or lower league?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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10/09/12 12:56 PM
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thanks bladerkeks, Might try and find that banner with a reference to the camorra
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"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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10/09/12 03:12 PM
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Can't see anything on google images. One other question. Are there mobsters in America who follows Italian football especially the zips who will more likely like football then American football or basketball?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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10/09/12 04:15 PM
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Are there mobsters in America who follows Italian football especially the zips who will more likely like football then American football or basketball? Frank LoCasio used to wear Juventus underoos. But the guys in lock-up kept teasing him. Meanies.
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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12/09/12 01:26 PM
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Hello, I'm new member here. I've been reading this forum for a while now and decided to register. Plenty of interesting stuff here, big compliments to all the members who contributed to the forum's quality. I'm from Eastern Europe but I follow Italian football quite a lot. I guess most of you Americans here aren't football ("soccer") fans so just few basic facts: in Naples, there is a club with one of the most passionate supporters in Europe, the city basically lives for the club. Napoli 'ultras' (organized group of hardcore fans) are known to be one of the most violent and 'crazy' in Europe. The club itself is quite successful and has a rich history (Maradona, the best player in football history played for them) that among other things also involves camorra-related scandals. "The Camorra was thought to be closely involved with Napoli during the side’s glory days in the late 1980s when Argentinean superstar Diego Maradona led them to two Serie A titles. And when several Camorra members turned informant in the mid-1990s, it was revealed that the Mafia had thrown wild parties involving call girls for Napoli players.
A more serious allegation was that the team deliberately lost a Serie A, and therefore the championship, in 1990, at the behest of Camorra-controlled bookmakers.
Both Napoli and the Camorra suffered a downturn in fortunes for well over a decade. The soccer club experienced financial crisis and bankruptcy, and fell all the way down to the third-tier Serie C before bouncing back and claiming a place in this season’s Champions League, where it will face Chelsea in the round of 16 in February.
The Mafia group lost power when many of its senior members were jailed, but has since sought to reassert control over Naples and other parts of southern Italy, law enforcement officials say. Napoli’s return to soccer strength seems to have piqued the interest of Camorra and it retains close ties with many fans organizations.
Hard line fan groups, known as “ultras,” have issued threats of violence in an attempt to secure free tickets. After supporters caused severe damage to a train en route to a game in Rome in 2008, more than 200 of the people questioned were reported to have had criminal ties.
The Camorra’s interest runs deeper than free tickets and it is believed the organization wants to gain control of a share of the club’s profits in exchange for “protection,” a common Mafia racket."http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug..._lavezzi_010912As far as the ultras are concerned, certain ties with the mob definitely exist. Back in 2008 there was a major incident where Napoli ultras smashed the train on their trip to Rome to an away game of their club: http://italychronicles.com/rampaging-football-hooligans-and-mafia/And here's a video of Napoli ultras arriving on an away game, they're lunatics, you don't want to mess with this crowd: http://youtu.be/GQbetD231D8I'm not sure about Sicilian ultras groups, as far as I know the ultras aren't strong there nowadays. Italian government took many measures agains football violence and ultras groups over the country are much less violent than they were in 80s or 90s, Napoli being the only exception. I guess that the Camorra can use violent ultras as some sort of "muscle" to intimidate the local club, which is currently one of the top European football clubs with tons of money and stars like Cavani and Hamšik, who are both worth around 40 million € or even more on the transfer market.
Last edited by Zrinski; 12/09/12 01:29 PM.
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Re: Sicilian mobster and Football
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12/09/12 01:42 PM
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Grandson of the famous Giuseppe Morabito (boss of the clan which turned the University of Messina into their private fiefdom), is Giuseppe Sculli, professional football player who was involed in all sorts of scandals, including the last year's betting scandal of 2011/12: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Italian_football_scandal Not only in Italy, all over Europe all sorts of OC groups are heavily into football corruption and stuff like match fixing, betting scandals etc. A lot of money in that. Not only football but other sports too, of course. In Eastern Europe most of national football leagues are corrupted mickey mouse tournaments and it's believed that dozens of games are fixed each year
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